Author Topic: Storm Fight a quick discontinue? (Read 14001 times)

mrwizerd · « **on:** March 11, 2016, 03:17:51 PM »

I realize it came out a little over a month ago, but I haven't seen one in any of the leagues I bowl in and haven't really heard anyone talking about either.

Does anyone else think the Fight might be a quick discontinue?

Brian Green · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2016, 01:56:53 PM »

I think avabob hit the nail on the head. The phase gives me more control at the end of pattern without losing hit. I know for me the phase is something ive been waiting to see from storm for a long time. It isnt a ball that covers a lot of boards but it's a ball that allows me to play straighter and still throw the pins around like it's coming in from the big angles.

tburky · « **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2016, 03:43:16 PM »

Quote from: ITZPS on March 12, 2016, 01:29:57 PM

Both the Fight and Phaze are different from most of what is on the market right now, and the problem is people trying to force them to be similar rather than letting them be different. People are trying to force a big backend move out of their Phaze instead of just letting it be smooth, and people aren't paying enough attention to the core numbers on the Fight. It gets its midlane read from the flare created by the differential, definitely not by the RG, so if you go too weak with the pin, yeah you're going to get some over/under.

+1

Walking E · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2016, 01:30:00 AM »

The impression I have of the Phaze is that it's similar to a Marvel Pearl - not jumpy off the spot like a typical pearl but much more controlled and predictable. To some that would make it seem weak, as least in comparison to balls in the same price range that are stronger off the spot. I always thought the Marvel Pearl was better suited for sport/PBA patterns (as opposed to being a house shot killer) and it was unquestionably a dominant piece on the tour for a while. This certainly seems like Storm's attempt to recreate that Marvel Pearl reaction, but now it's dressed up in a much brighter package.
I've only seen a few Fights rolled but not by bowlers with much hand, so that has tempered my initial reactions.

TheGom · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2016, 08:02:08 PM »

Quote from: Walking E on March 14, 2016, 01:30:00 AM

The impression I have of the Phaze is that it's similar to a Marvel Pearl - not jumpy off the spot like a typical pearl but much more controlled and predictable. To some that would make it seem weak, as least in comparison to balls in the same price range that are stronger off the spot. I always thought the Marvel Pearl was better suited for sport/PBA patterns (as opposed to being a house shot killer) and it was unquestionably a dominant piece on the tour for a while. This certainly seems like Storm's attempt to recreate that Marvel Pearl reaction, but now it's dressed up in a much brighter package.
I've only seen a few Fights rolled but not by bowlers with much hand, so that has tempered my initial reactions.

What did the Fight look like from the not much hand guys?

Walking E · « **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2016, 01:51:16 AM »

Not much movement, not much carry. Tough to tell with this bowler, unfortunately.

SVstar34 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2016, 12:08:15 PM »

I don't have a lot of hand but I'm right around 300 rpm. I'm a big fan of solid covers so I knew I wanted the Fight when I saw it. For me it gets good length through the heads, the cover starts to pick up in the late midlane and I get good continuation through the pin deck

WOWZERS · « **Reply #22 on:** March 15, 2016, 01:07:17 PM »

I fight getting the ball through the heads without checking up early because of my tilt/speed/revs. I always look for products with higher RGs as the ball will naturally lope longer than a ball with low/lower RGs. Fight fits the bill perfect and for others in my area that do have higher speed, have more revs than me, or like to go up the boards straighter than me have had success in the few weeks this ball has been available. Now, will this continue? Maybe, but for now, the ball is really doing well around here.

amyers2002 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 15, 2016, 01:13:07 PM »

I haven't seen huge amount of these on the lanes but the ones I have are looking good. It may have gotten lost a bit in the hype with the Phaze and Alpha.

ITZPS · « **Reply #24 on:** March 15, 2016, 02:03:55 PM »

Phaze: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgYQGIghSEo

Fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLffUaNsb-Y

ryguy119 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 15, 2016, 03:03:07 PM »

I tried Fight again last night for a few frames the 1st game of my league. After 2 strikes and 6 solid 10 pins I switched to my Lock and ended up ok with a 670 set. I have never had a ball that leaves so many solid 10's. Ball constantly hits pocket but just can't string any strikes with this ball. I have tried it polished and the result was the same. Running out of options with this ball. Love the roll of it but just doesn't strike enough for me to keep using it. Especially when I can switch to a different ball and the 10 pin problem disappears.

SVstar34 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 15, 2016, 03:07:28 PM »

Well the Fight and Lock are completely different. The Lock probably starts up sooner for you carrying the 10 pin while the Fight is going too long

WOWZERS · « **Reply #27 on:** March 15, 2016, 03:17:45 PM »

Ryguy

If you are pinging 10s and suddenly you pick up a stronger ball (lower RG, probably stronger cover) and the 10 problem disappears, there is probably too much volume or too long of a pattern for the Fight to square up to the pocket quick enough with the high RG, especially if you have a long pin to PAP drill on the ball making the response time even later down the lane.

Many times when a ball is not "hooking" enough or hits like a wet towel, it is because there is not enough volume for the ball being used. In this case, sounds like we have the opposite problem.

I would venture to say that when the Lock starts to ping 10s because the ball is burning up, that would be the time the Fight would shine.

ITZPS · « **Reply #28 on:** March 15, 2016, 05:12:22 PM »

P3 hole. Problem solved.

Quote from: ryguy119 on March 15, 2016, 03:03:07 PM

I tried Fight again last night for a few frames the 1st game of my league. After 2 strikes and 6 solid 10 pins I switched to my Lock and ended up ok with a 670 set. I have never had a ball that leaves so many solid 10's. Ball constantly hits pocket but just can't string any strikes with this ball. I have tried it polished and the result was the same. Running out of options with this ball. Love the roll of it but just doesn't strike enough for me to keep using it. Especially when I can switch to a different ball and the 10 pin problem disappears.

ryguy119 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 15, 2016, 05:42:23 PM »

Already have one. Thinking maybe I am playing too far right with this ball. Moved in with Lock and caught some more oil in middle and no more 10 pins. Even with high r.g. maybe Fight burning up a bit playing out in the dry. I did polish it up and got better length but still no better carry. Will try moving in a bit and see if that helps carry better. Every house I bowl has a similar result with this ball. In the pocket 90% of the time but just can't string any strikes together. Also beginning to wonder if this ball is better suited for a flatter pattern. Bowling in Reno soon and need to get ball figured out. Some balls are just better suited for a sport pattern.

SVstar34 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 15, 2016, 05:55:06 PM »

Sounds like you're just playing the wrong angle for the condition you're bowling on if moving in with the Lock works better

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