So I know I am in the storm section. Being that i own 6 storm balls. But does anyone feel like storm is starting to losing some ground? More and more I am starting to see Motiv around everywhere. This weekend i felt like i was the only one throwing storm in an entire house. Now dont get me wrong i love storm and my next purchase will be timeless or a Code Red but i just want to get some opinions out there and see if anyone is noticing the same.

> see the same HP4 balls over and over

True of almost all the ball makers but that Hot Cell urethane coming is definitely not your typical HP4 but then again shouldn't even be in that line.  Haven't tried any of Storm's urethanes.  In fact haven't bought a Storm ball since that POS Storm Shift lemon I got years ago but if I did again would probably pick up a Hy-Road instead of one of the Pitches.  The 900 cover on my Lane #1 ball isn't bad but haven't tried any of theirs (Honey Badger looks nice).  Have to agree though Motiv has some pretty killer beautiful balls.  Almost got a Primal Rage instead of the Scandal Pearl but if had to do over again well would probably get a Maverick but that is neither here nor there.

The reused stuff is the best. 

Keep the cells coming....core rolls way better than the no rules...

Quote from: billdozer on August 04, 2017, 12:03:59 PM

The reused stuff is the best. 

Keep the cells coming....core rolls way better than the no rules...

I wish they'd give us some of the international stuff Roto has released like the Alliance series (asymm core w/ higher rg and medium diff in 14 & 15lbs). The World Cell looked amazing when Marc threw it

World cell did look good.

That alliance core (shape) was very similar to the epic line BEFORE the cell. I assume since the cell they really haven't been able to stay away.  Struggles when doing something different...

Theory line wasn't well received u til the 3rd release
Sinister line didn't sell well

No rules is the first thing to sell since the cell....

Maybe it changes things for roto.

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on June 23, 2017, 01:16:07 PM

I really don't think most people even know it exists.  It came out with the Timeless and got zero attention, and here it ends up being this legitimate super blue collar ball that just works on everything it seems like, and yeah, probably will be discontinued before long.  Would be a travesty though.  I think it does what the IQ Tour does but better. 

Quote from: Impending Doom on June 23, 2017, 11:28:12 AM

The Torrent is the classic definition of sleeper ball. Just has a moderate motion, can be used on mediums, and seems very predictable. So that ball will be discontinued soon. Who wants predictable when you can have skid snap??

I agree with Luke about the Torrent 200%! Thanks Luke for the good deal. I bought a Code black same time as the Torrent. So far i've used the Torrent over 50 games in 2 months while the Code black has about 10-15 games on it. Very underated and most overlooked ball this year.

Maybe it's just me, but I think the Torrent is the best of the smoother Storm pieces. Really feels like a Hy-Road that I can throw on the fresh.

I wish I had room in my arsenal for one, unfortunately I'm loaded with benchmarks to add one, it would fit perfectly.

May have ti take the plunge and get one anyway.

Most likely overseas.  If it sounds too good to be true and something you'd really be interested in, it's overseas. 

Quote from: SVstar34 on August 12, 2017, 11:00:08 AM

There's a Torrent Rush on the approved list now. If it's a US release with R2S hybrid i think I'll be all over that

#truth

I REALLY miss the Rocket, the whole series really, so a polished hybrid Torrent makes me really excited.  Timeless suffers from the combination high RG and high diff.  It never really revs and jerks off friction.  Hyroad is starting to show its age a bit.  Rocket was good, hybrid Torrent sounds better.  Rocket had a different shape than the Hyroad, more that clean through the fronts and hook/set than a hard arc.  I'd imagine an R2S hybrid Torrent to be more the shape of the Hyroad but earlier and smoother. 

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on August 14, 2017, 07:37:15 AM

Most likely overseas.  If it sounds too good to be true and something you'd really be interested in, it's overseas. 

Quote from: SVstar34 on August 12, 2017, 11:00:08 AM

There's a Torrent Rush on the approved list now. If it's a US release with R2S hybrid i think I'll be all over that

I know it's too good to be true. I've missed R2S hybrid in my bag since the Crossroad.

I had a HyRoad Pearl and it loped too much for me. I've thrown my buddies HyRoad that has a similar span  and it also lopes too much for me. Both have/had layouts that i use on almost everything. Timeless has never impressed me, but the Booster core has looked good in my eyes. I know a lot of people that love the Rocket Ship