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3835

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Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« on: March 11, 2022, 04:53:22 PM »
No word why yet. More to come.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #91 on: March 21, 2022, 01:50:19 PM »
Quote from: SVstar34 on March 21, 2022, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: 3835 on March 21, 2022, 06:52:51 AM
Supposedly there is a reason behind Storm not wanting drilled balls returned to the pro shop or to Storm or requiring the serial number to be drilled out (Motiv required the Pro Shop to drill out the serial number on the Jackals).....

If you put 2 and 2 together, that tells me Storm has something up their sleeve about this. Further, the Spectre is still on Storm's website.

What this tells me is ultimately, I think Storm is going to use every recourse to get the Spectre approved again, but because they know its more than likely going to be a long process, don't want to hurt customers, so in the meantime they are throwing everyone a free ball.

They are definitely trying to get it reinstated. I'm a little surprised the P4 isn't on the list of balls for exchange

Or the Altered Reality for that matter.

But out of those 7 choices: Helios all day.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #92 on: March 21, 2022, 01:51:46 PM »
Quote from: psycaz on March 21, 2022, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: milorafferty on March 21, 2022, 01:37:09 PM
I seem to be missing some needed instructions.

What do I do with an undrilled Spectre? I have one I got from my local proshop that is drilled and a second one that is still NIB that I purchased from Buddies.

I must be over looking those instructions somewhere.

From their news page article:

If you have an undrilled Spectre, please email tech@stormbowling.com with your
Name
Shipping Address
Picture of the serial number
Choice of the 7 Balls (Storm Hy-Road, Storm Hy-Road Pearl, Storm Pitch Black, 900 Global Wolverine, Roto Grip Rubicon UC2, Roto Grip Rubicon UC3, Roto Grip IDOL Helios)
Replacement Weight
If you run into any issues with the website, please contact 800-369-4402.

Thanks! Damn, I was just overlooking it. Even after reading your post, I read it again and still missed it. LOL

Now, like magic I see it clear as day.  ;D
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #93 on: March 21, 2022, 02:06:19 PM »
A few of my really good customers are not happy with the options (100% their opinion only). They all said if they wanted 10 year old technology they would have bought that already (in reference to both Hyroads being offered) and nobody liked the urethane option (Pitch Black).
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #94 on: March 21, 2022, 02:28:11 PM »
Quote from: 3835 on March 21, 2022, 02:06:19 PM
A few of my really good customers are not happy with the options (100% their opinion only). They all said if they wanted 10 year old technology they would have bought that already (in reference to both Hyroads being offered) and nobody liked the urethane option (Pitch Black).

After throwing the Spectre, I wished I had bought a Hy-Road instead, so I will take that anyday.

For the undrilled one, I have to decide, but probably the UC2 or Helios.

I was hoping the IQ Tour would be one of the selections. I guess I love me some 10 year old technology.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #95 on: March 21, 2022, 02:30:55 PM »
I do too. Still have a Venom Shock and an undrilled one as well (yes its 8 years old not 10).

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #96 on: March 21, 2022, 02:31:36 PM »
Quote from: svengali on March 21, 2022, 01:50:19 PM
Quote from: SVstar34 on March 21, 2022, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: 3835 on March 21, 2022, 06:52:51 AM
Supposedly there is a reason behind Storm not wanting drilled balls returned to the pro shop or to Storm or requiring the serial number to be drilled out (Motiv required the Pro Shop to drill out the serial number on the Jackals).....

If you put 2 and 2 together, that tells me Storm has something up their sleeve about this. Further, the Spectre is still on Storm's website.

What this tells me is ultimately, I think Storm is going to use every recourse to get the Spectre approved again, but because they know its more than likely going to be a long process, don't want to hurt customers, so in the meantime they are throwing everyone a free ball.

They are definitely trying to get it reinstated. I'm a little surprised the P4 isn't on the list of balls for exchange

Or the Altered Reality for that matter.

But out of those 7 choices: Helios all day.

They were never going to offer a Premier line/HP4 ball for the exchange.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #97 on: March 21, 2022, 03:20:43 PM »
Pitch Black and the two Hy-Roads are there because they're the rest of the Thunder line. Pitch Blue is getting DC'ed, so no reason to include it. Helios and Wolverine are the equivalent from RG/900G. Can't use Hustles, Electrifys or Hypeds because they sell for less and don't meet "full restitution" standard.

What doesn't belong are the two Rubicon balls, unless the UC2 is getting close to DC status. I've noticed a lot of them going for below MAP on eBay lately so that might be it. The problem is, none of these are close to the Spectre in terms of shape/reaction. UC2 maybe depending on how you drill it.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #98 on: March 21, 2022, 03:54:17 PM »
Wolverine can be made most close with the right layout and finish but it's not perfect. Heck of a ball though.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #99 on: March 21, 2022, 05:03:26 PM »
Wolverine cover is a lot different, it feels like. The Spectre was stronger than it might have first appeared, while the Wolverine looks like something to be used an entire adjustment later in a block. Just IMO.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #100 on: March 21, 2022, 05:54:41 PM »
Quote from: JessN16 on March 21, 2022, 05:03:26 PM
Wolverine cover is a lot different, it feels like. The Spectre was stronger than it might have first appeared, while the Wolverine looks like something to be used an entire adjustment later in a block. Just IMO.

On paper the Wolverine is definitely closest with the cover difference being R3S Pearl vs S70/R2S Pearl.

I think the core shape is what leads to there being a bigger difference than on paper. It seems like the Spectre will get more asymmetry after drilling thus leading to it being stronger than expected.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #101 on: March 21, 2022, 11:31:37 PM »
Quote from: SVstar34 on March 21, 2022, 05:54:41 PM
Quote from: JessN16 on March 21, 2022, 05:03:26 PM
Wolverine cover is a lot different, it feels like. The Spectre was stronger than it might have first appeared, while the Wolverine looks like something to be used an entire adjustment later in a block. Just IMO.

On paper the Wolverine is definitely closest with the cover difference being R3S Pearl vs S70/R2S Pearl.

I think the core shape is what leads to there being a bigger difference than on paper. It seems like the Spectre will get more asymmetry after drilling thus leading to it being stronger than expected.

I find quite a bit of difference between R2 series and R3 of coverstocks, but I'm weird, and end up liking a lot of things others don't and vice vers. I can definitely see the Spectre's ending asymmetry being different, though, especially if you drill the Wolverine with a high pin and get that "mushroom cap" out of the drilling zone.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #102 on: March 22, 2022, 08:26:40 AM »
Storm is being very generous with this replacement program.  Assuming they are still in the process of appealing the USBC ruling on the Spectre, already offering a free replacement with a drilling voucher, and then allowing bowlers to keep their Spectre as well is astonishing.  I know, bowler friendly company, customer service, blah blah blah.  To start replacing balls this early is financially risky for Storm.

Either Storm doesn't think their appeal will result in the Spectre getting reinstated and is just getting the replacement program underway, or the ball will get reinstated and Storm will have taken a hit with an unnecessary replacement program.

Anyone who has a Spectre shouldn't wait on this.  Get your claim in right away.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #103 on: March 22, 2022, 09:04:15 AM »
At least Storm only had the first batch of the Spectre out on the market.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2022, 09:59:28 AM »
Has there been any estimates as to how many Spectre balls were already in the channel?  The ball was released mid-December 2021, so 3 or so months worth of production...
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #105 on: March 22, 2022, 10:20:10 AM »
Quote from: Bowler19525 on March 22, 2022, 08:26:40 AM
Storm is being very generous with this replacement program.  Assuming they are still in the process of appealing the USBC ruling on the Spectre, already offering a free replacement with a drilling voucher, and then allowing bowlers to keep their Spectre as well is astonishing.  I know, bowler friendly company, customer service, blah blah blah.  To start replacing balls this early is financially risky for Storm.

Either Storm doesn't think their appeal will result in the Spectre getting reinstated and is just getting the replacement program underway, or the ball will get reinstated and Storm will have taken a hit with an unnecessary replacement program.

Anyone who has a Spectre shouldn't wait on this.  Get your claim in right away.


I agree that Storm is being very generous with this one. I have one drilled and one NIB, sent both in today.


The Storm site says it will be a three to five week turnaround which is awesome. Motiv should pay attention to how Storm is handling this, not make their customers wait MONTHS for an exchange.

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