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Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« on: March 11, 2022, 04:53:22 PM »
No word why yet. More to come.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2022, 11:30:03 AM »
When balls are approved you get the test results in a report with the approval letter, so I doubt the balls submitted originally were out of spec. 

I know bashing the USBC is the popular thing to do on BR.com, but it's not a USBC problem, it's a quality control issue by the manufacturer.

Test balls don't come out of the production runs, so it is the manufacturer responsibility to make sure the production run balls end up the same as the test balls submitted.

When stuff like this happens somebody already knows and they have made the decision to take the calculated risk vs. the guaranteed loss. 
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2022, 11:48:39 AM »
Quote from: itsallaboutme on March 14, 2022, 11:30:03 AM
When balls are approved you get the test results in a report with the approval letter, so I doubt the balls submitted originally were out of spec. 

I know bashing the USBC is the popular thing to do on BR.com, but it's not a USBC problem, it's a quality control issue by the manufacturer.

Test balls don't come out of the production runs, so it is the manufacturer responsibility to make sure the production run balls end up the same as the test balls submitted.

When stuff like this happens somebody already knows and they have made the decision to take the calculated risk vs. the guaranteed loss. 

As much as I would love to blame Chad, I can't disagree with anything you said here. Storm obviously screwed up. On purpose(knowing and going ahead anyway) or by accident, this is still on Storm. Even if it's a resin supplier issue, it's still on Storm.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2022, 12:06:16 PM »
Collateral damage from the purple hammer witch hunt. This might get interesting, hearing chatter at the WSOB is the Zen and Phase 2 are being looked at. Storms been making balls at the lower end of the 73-75 hardness they claim their balls are at.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2022, 01:00:53 PM »
The only complaint against USBC on this would be why do a teaser friday to then do this today if you had the information all along? Are you that hard up for social media attention and buzz about bowling?

It is unfortunate that this happened and no doubt someone out there is paying close attention to different bowling balls and passing the information on to USBC who then is forced to get involved.

Hopefully there are no other Storm balls with this issue. The last thing you want is a manufacturer going under or being taken back a few years because of something like this. Motiv I think almost lost out because of this on the Jackal. Not that this is as popular of a release but still a costly issue.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2022, 01:02:42 PM »
Can confirm more SPI balls are being heavily scrutinized.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2022, 01:28:48 PM »
So my source was right again.

If this turns into 3/4/5 balls getting decertified this is going to get very nasty.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2022, 01:50:30 PM »
Quote from: northface28 on March 14, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
Can confirm more SPI balls are being heavily scrutinized.

Oh Boy!
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2022, 01:57:10 PM »
Just like the Jackal was the end of balls coming out at a .060 differential, the companies will be sure to leave some buffer room with hardness now.

This will just make it harder for companies to come out with the newest, greatest thing.

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2022, 02:11:43 PM »
Quote from: JamminJD on March 14, 2022, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: northface28 on March 14, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
Can confirm more SPI balls are being heavily scrutinized.

Oh Boy!

RIP Idol Helios was nice knowing ya.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2022, 02:47:39 PM »
Quote from: svengali on March 14, 2022, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: JamminJD on March 14, 2022, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: northface28 on March 14, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
Can confirm more SPI balls are being heavily scrutinized.

Oh Boy!

RIP Idol Helios was nice knowing ya.

Could you imagine that being true after a second 900 series was just thrown with one
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2022, 02:50:08 PM »
Quote from: themagician on March 14, 2022, 12:06:16 PM
Collateral damage from the purple hammer witch hunt. This might get interesting, hearing chatter at the WSOB is the Zen and Phase 2 are being looked at. Storms been making balls at the lower end of the 73-75 hardness they claim their balls are at.
Dunno anything about the Zen (don't have one) but the Phaze II is stupid strong out of the box and it would not surprise me if that turns out to be why.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2022, 02:51:19 PM »
This is on Storm of course, but if it's across multiple balls, it is probably a supplier problem.

Their resin supplier is probably sweating about now. Or could be an issue with some additive used in the process.

At any rate, Storm needs to check their QA process.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2022, 06:27:56 PM »
Quote from: SVstar34 on March 14, 2022, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: svengali on March 14, 2022, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: JamminJD on March 14, 2022, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: northface28 on March 14, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
Can confirm more SPI balls are being heavily scrutinized.

Oh Boy!

RIP Idol Helios was nice knowing ya.

Could you imagine that being true after a second 900 series was just thrown with one

I'm hearing rumours that Rash was throwing a Spectre during the tournament and/or finals when he was complaining about the Purple Hammer. I didn't watch the show so I don't know..

If so, I don't know which way to take it...

BL.
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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2022, 06:31:49 PM »
11th Frame.com confirmed Rash was using a Spectre when he had his flare up on TV.

Also - Belmo won the Players Championship and used a Spectre in the finals, also according to 11th Frame.com

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Re: Storm Spectre stripped of USBC approval….
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2022, 07:13:15 PM »
Quote from: bradl on March 14, 2022, 06:27:56 PM
Quote from: SVstar34 on March 14, 2022, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: svengali on March 14, 2022, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: JamminJD on March 14, 2022, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: northface28 on March 14, 2022, 01:02:42 PM
Can confirm more SPI balls are being heavily scrutinized.

Oh Boy!

RIP Idol Helios was nice knowing ya.

Could you imagine that being true after a second 900 series was just thrown with one

I'm hearing rumours that Rash was throwing a Spectre during the tournament and/or finals when he was complaining about the Purple Hammer. I didn't watch the show so I don't know..

If so, I don't know which way to take it...

BL.

SO, the question is, is there a rat? Do we have the box of balls that say spin me going on again? Hopefully not, bowling doesn't need this negative publicity..
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