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lane1baller

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Totally Defiant surface question ??????
« on: November 19, 2013, 10:40:36 AM »
Would like to use my Roto Grip Totally Defiant on my league house shot. It's drilled pin down and my speed is generally around 15 mph. It's just too strong and hits like a pumpkin. Really wanna use my new ball. I would appreciate any surface recommendations

 

SVstar34

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Re: Totally Defiant surface question ??????
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2013, 10:58:39 AM »
there really isnt much you can do for the surface, unless you were to take a 4000 pad and a different polish and then polish the crap out of it.

Storm/Roto's 1500 polished surface is 4000 abralon + Storm's Step 2 polish

I'm assuming hitting like a "pumpkin" means it's hitting weak in the pocket because it is losing too much energy. You just need to throw something that is meant for lighter oil
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Re: Totally Defiant surface question ??????
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 11:16:18 AM »
All of my defiants roll weird. I can use any of storms equivalents and they work just fine. 


Do I just:

Roll the ball bad?

Or did I punch these up wrong.

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Re: Totally Defiant surface question ??????
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 12:36:23 PM »
You do have 2 other options.

1. Adjust your delivery with more ball speed, less revs, moving deeper to find more head oil, change you tilt and/or rotation, and/or use a more end over end release to reduce the backend and add control.

2. The next thing you can do to use this ball on lighter oil: use a polish with a slip agent in it. Such polishes make the ball go longer, reduce both the overall hook and the backend, making them more controllable and useful on less oil than that for which they were intended.

Among the slip agent polishes I know of that do work are Valentino;s UFO, Neo-Tac's Control-It and Powerhouse's  Delayed Reaction.

These polishes have what is called a "slip agent". It usually works by blocking the "pores" of the coverstock reducing the ability to absorb oil. For resins, this affects them the way I described above.

To restore the coverstock to be useful on its original condition, you need to sand it with something like 500 grit and then repolish it back to factory specs.

That said, if you're not capable of doing #1,  I also recommend you get a ball intended to handle this lesser oil you are now seeing and save the TD for when you see more oil again. This will also enable you to build an arsenal for better flexibility.
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Re: Totally Defiant surface question ??????
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2013, 01:18:11 PM »
How have you been bowling at league with the balls you already own?
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Re: Totally Defiant surface question ??????
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2013, 01:28:44 PM »
I been bowling fine with other balls. Average 203 with critical theory. The totally defiant I layed out exact same way

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Re: Totally Defiant surface question ??????
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2013, 01:32:06 PM »
A coat of Storm X-tra shine should do the trick. It will make it "pop" more on the backend, without cutting down the surface texture the way the polishing compounds do.
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