Post by: BowlerKidR on July 19, 2005, 10:31:06 AM
http://stormbowling.com/ball/ball.asp?ballid=195
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Post by: Goof1073 on July 19, 2005, 08:35:19 PM
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Post by: Supermo on July 21, 2005, 04:36:23 AM
assures me it will be good for my style,Stoker/tweener.I have had some storm balls before some of the Super Power range and found them ok. I know this is a new ball so no reviews on it as yet. I think its the one up from the Vertigo and the reviews on that are good..so here's hoping
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Post by: dizzyfugu on July 21, 2005, 05:34:03 AM
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Post by: dizzyfugu on July 21, 2005, 06:37:43 AM
I suppoase it will not sell well, simply by the looks and an unclear performance differentiation from the Vertigo.
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Post by: dizzyfugu on July 21, 2005, 06:52:33 AM
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Post by: Supermo on July 21, 2005, 07:17:44 AM
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Post by: MarvinsSkeleton on July 21, 2005, 08:52:44 AM
JJ,
The one person I think of from your proshop could most definitely make any ball look impressive. There are three that I know of there, however, you said "he" so that cuts out one. The other two are pretty good too compared to her... hahaha
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Post by: Supermo on July 21, 2005, 10:51:41 AM
Edited on 7/21/2005 10:47 AM
Post by: Billy Ray on July 21, 2005, 08:59:00 PM
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Post by: Supermo on July 22, 2005, 04:23:46 AM
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Post by: Billy Ray on July 22, 2005, 06:27:50 AM
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I havent quite decided how i'm having it drilled yet i have my AI drilled with pin under ring finger and get a nice early roll with a good arc to the pocket.Will i get the same result on heavier oil drilling my Trifecta the same way. I'm a stroker/tweener bout 16mph not a lot of hand. Any ideas welcome thanks guys.
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Yes earlier than the original AI in the oil if you leave it out of the box.
I have mine drilled similarly to your AI.
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Post by: shelley on July 22, 2005, 10:33:06 AM
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who cares what a ball looks or smells like? It's a ball... lol.
Enough people that there's a reason there aren't many brown balls that smell like poo.
SH
Post by: BowlerKidR on July 22, 2005, 12:38:09 PM
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That's exactly what it is.... same core, just a particle version. It's designed to hook up earlier then the Vertigo, and roll more.
Sorry charlie but u are wrong. Its not the same core. YEs it has the same name, but the core, if u look at it, is different. The Vertigo has a square box type of cube thingy added to the side of the weight block. Notice how on the Trifecta its not there. THat means the cores are different.
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Post by: Supermo on July 23, 2005, 04:30:37 PM
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Post by: BowlerKidR on July 23, 2005, 04:57:46 PM
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Same core as XXXtreme. But Stronger Particle cover, should be sooner and handle oil better than the XXXtreme.
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Its just a modified Vertigo Core
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Post by: Traumatize on July 23, 2005, 05:14:20 PM
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Post by: Supermo on July 24, 2005, 02:45:57 AM
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Post by: Storm269 on July 25, 2005, 11:02:40 AM
Post by: BowlerKidR on July 25, 2005, 12:19:17 PM
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Don't understand why is Storm producing so many Master line ball that is for heavy oil and Brunswick (Inferno) is doing the same for medium oil ???
Well what do you want? I mean think about it, when a company comes out with a new product, for instance, a new core, they want to show case the core in a great ball. Most companies believe that a great ball is a heavy hooker. Which would explain why this happens. It goes on everywhere. Ebonite did it in their XXcel and XXXcel, Storm in their Vertigo and Trifecta, Columbia did it with the Bully and Big Bully, Track with their Rule GP2, MoRich did it in their Weapon of MAss Bias, and Total Shock and Awe, Roto Grip is doing it with their Epic. Its really not that hard to see.
And then once a core is proven to be successful, they put that core into many other products, including non heavy oil hookers. For instance, the entire Titanium nugget cores that Columbia, Track and AMF used. The Bully core from Columbia is now being introduced is a mid-priced ball. Hammers core that was used in the entire Diesel series was great, and is being introduced in their new Heavy Hooking monster the Hawg. But this is also occuring in new Covers. The Cut Throat Coverstock from Hammer was introduced on the Real Deal. It was proven to be great, and then released in their mid-priced line in the Saw and Razor Blades, and then released in a high preformance ball the Big Deal.
Really, its just like everything else in life is about, MONEY. Everything is about making money. A company takes either a coverstock, a core, or the name from a very popular released series, and uses it to introduce a new product, and for most companies a popular line is their High Preformance line, which equates into a heavy hooker. yes it is a bit different for the inferno line, but it is what sells. Lets look at it, they really dont make balls for the Medium condition only. Theu have the Intense Inferno and Blazing Inferno for light, they have the ultimate Inferno for heavy, and then the Raging Inferno for med-heavy, and then they have the Origional Inferno and the new Smoking Inferno for med oil. So i really dont know what you are talking about.
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Edited on 7/25/2005 12:14 PM
Post by: Supermo on July 26, 2005, 02:24:45 AM
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Post by: Supermo on July 29, 2005, 05:58:59 PM
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Post by: gtghm on August 01, 2005, 02:17:13 AM
I am definately going to plug and redrill this one. The ball IS a lot of ball but not as much as you would think it is. I have to say that I am a little dissapointed at this point. I don't know why they left off the little nub at the top. After the sucess of the Vertigo I thought this would be an overall improvement from that on heavy oil on tough conditions but it seems to me to be a little step backwords...
I don't know, maybe once I move that pin under my ring or go 3-3/8 X 3-3/8 I'll see the dynamics of this ball come to life....
Just my $0.02,
"g"
Post by: Supermo on August 01, 2005, 03:13:49 AM
I Have that drilling pin under ring and not getting any real reaction on it.
Just had it sanded to 500 going to try that tonite and see if there is any difference. I'm just as dissapointed as you, we pay a lot more here than you do for a ball$250, could have picked a ball up for $30 that does as much. My first new storm ball...probably my last
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Post by: Traumatize on August 01, 2005, 04:25:09 AM
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Post by: Supermo on August 01, 2005, 05:36:39 AM
Ok i'll see how it goes tonite if no difference my driller will be there as he bowls in the same league i'll go for your drilling.Willing to try anything right now.
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Post by: gtghm on August 03, 2005, 02:42:54 AM
More later after I do the redrill,
"g"
Post by: Supermo on August 03, 2005, 01:38:26 PM
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Edited on 8/3/2005 1:31 PM
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 07, 2005, 10:46:03 PM
The Trifecta was earlier with less backend...Vertigo was slightly later slightly more backend.
Particles to me always seem to have this exact characteristic!
REgards,
LUckylefty
Post by: gtghm on August 09, 2005, 12:51:06 AM
Drilled it pin under with the CG and RAD kicked out right and an X hole on the PAP.
I have to try it polished but first thing, I don't think that most centers will put enough oil out for the THS to get this ball down the lane, second the ball just doesn't seem like even in the oil that it will retain enough energy to cary. All in all I think that I made a mistake gettting this ball. it doesn't seem to be a ball that works for my game...
"g"
Post by: Supermo on August 09, 2005, 03:33:45 AM
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Pin to PAP 4/1/2 ins, Pin above and in the middle of bridge, balance hole to the right,and had it taken up to 1500 wetsand.Played last night on the same condition as last week. On practice i could see a big difference in the shape went much longer then made a strong move to the pocket.I stand first arrow left of centre and played between 2nd&3rd ball went long then made a sharp turn in.Took me a game to get used to it 186 with 3 opens 2washouts and a split.2nd game 224with 1 open split, 3rd game 254 realy got used to it by then 664 set very happy.I'll keep it at 1500 for the time being and see how it goes but this is a much better drilling for my style Stroker/16mph.
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Edited on 8/9/2005 3:29 AM
Post by: Supermo on August 10, 2005, 03:44:29 AM
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