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KevinEllis

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Virtual Energy Contest
« on: July 08, 2009, 03:22:53 AM »
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http://www.stormbowling.com/contests/virtualenergy

 

Oldskool2

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 07:03:27 AM »
It's getting very annoying that all Storm's contests are for US residents only.

Storm has loyal users all over the world, but they are left out every time.


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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2009, 11:08:38 PM »
And some wonder why the world hates the US so much.

To quote Michael Jordan "Republicans buy shoes too" or in this case Belgians and bowling balls.

Oldskool2

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 02:27:48 AM »
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Who Gives a CR@p... Belgium??? Really!!!

Try and win stuff from your own Country!!!
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I expected this to be a reply from a 10 year old at most, but it appears you are 56.

That's all I need to say about this. I let your own words speak for themselves, they say MORE than enough about you.


Xcessive_Evil

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2009, 05:20:50 AM »
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Who Gives a CR@p... Belgium??? Really!!!

Try and win stuff from your own Country!!!
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I expected this to be a reply from a 10 year old at most, but it appears you are 56.

That's all I need to say about this. I let your own words speak for themselves, they say MORE than enough about you.




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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2009, 06:38:46 AM »
You are correct that this contest should be open world wide.  The problem I am guessing is it is being run and thought about by the US sales division.  I would venture to guess that Storm (like most international companies) have different divisions for the US and International and they dont interact very often. It is narrow minded thinking on the the part of Storm that some VP somewhere does not bring up the international part but I am willing to bet there are some sort of Lawyers involved and they are worried about some import/export rule that they cannot give away prizes when Customs would be involved or some crap like that.

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2009, 08:55:50 AM »
Then there's the fact that shipping outside the US has increased cost.  UPS costs about $22 to ship to most of the US.  In comparison it's over $170 to ship a ball to Belgium.  Companies like fixed costs - and lower ones at that.  The points that Phoneman brings up all apply as well (customs, international law, tax, etc) also make it a pain in the rear.

I certainly would never expect a company in Europe to be shipping to the US for a contest with a low end prize.

Bigmike

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 09:05:19 AM »
C'mon folks, Storm doesn't have to give away a thing. It is nice that they even run contests for folks to potentially win something at.

Many companies have cut out promotional items in this current economy especially sporting goods companies like Louisville Slugger.
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Oskuposer

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2009, 10:22:37 AM »
You guys get all of the kool international ones
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Oldskool2

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2009, 10:23:15 AM »
Hello,

Thank you for the normal answers.

Shipping should not be the problem, because there is a distributor in Europe(Bowltech). They have more than enough in stock.

And yes, it's nice of them to run a contest like this, but Roto grip does the same and that one is international. I think they share most of there divisions.

I don't make a big problem out of this at all, just something I noticed the last few contests.

All the best from Belgium,

Antoine

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2009, 10:25:47 AM »
It has less to do with narrow minded thinking and/or shipping costs and more about international law. Even in the US, there are all sorts of rules about running contests. Most states have the same basic rules, so most national contests are valid. Rhode Island is unique because the state law actually requires the company to file a legal statement before it can run a contest in that state. That is why you see some contests say RI isn't valid - simply because the company didn't want to file the contest with the state.

Contest law varies even more between different countries. If you were to open up a contest to people all over the world, you would have to research the law in every single country on earth, to avoid getting yourself in legal trouble. For a typical promotional contest, this is just too much work. The legal fees for the required research would be much more than the payoff of the promotion. Additionally, there are some problematic legal questions inherent in any international contest. For example, if something were to go wrong, -- say, the prize was lost in shipping -- what court would the contest winner go to? It would be a very tough legal question just figuring out who had jurisdiction.

What it comes down to is that it's just too much work for a company to find out how to cover themselves, legally, in multiple countries and in all states. After all, the typical rules and regulations of a contest running only in the United States take up 20 or so paragraphs. Just think how small a company like Storm would have to make the print to cover itself internationally!

Oldskool2

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009, 10:26:39 AM »
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You guys get all of the kool international ones
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We get the same line of bowling balls as in the US.

The "kool international ones" are mostly for the Asian market.

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2009, 01:36:43 PM »
Agree with you Oldskool2, but if I were you I would inquire with Storm. Their people I've dealt with are first class and maybe it's something they've overlooked, or have a very good reason for not doing. Never hurts to ask!!

Oldskool2

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2009, 05:41:36 AM »
@ hartungrj

Hey "DUDE",

Thank you for replying again and by doing so confirming my earlier remark about you.

The USA is not hated, just the individuals who are ruining it for the rest.

All the best from Belgium,

Antoine

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Re: Virtual Energy Contest
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2009, 08:22:43 AM »
Oldskool, You could have a buddy over here enter the contest.  If he wins, have him ship it to you.  Or, you could move here, win your ball, then move back.  See, there's ways around things......