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riggs

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Schlemer report on World Championship
« on: October 29, 2008, 01:20:12 AM »
Most interesting stuff is at end regarding how players worked the TV pair during practice.  Like it or not, pro bowling is about 1,000 times more complex than it was years ago.

http://www.stormbowling.com/bowling-news/story.asp?enewsid=2711&intl=True

 

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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2008, 09:55:18 PM »
I think setting up a lane is fair game as is trashing someones shot. It adds more creativity to lane strategy...like playing chess.

Edited on 10/29/2008 9:56 PM

riggs

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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2008, 08:10:02 AM »
Guzz (Jeff Carter) is referencing an interesting match we had where I almost came back to beat him using "defense."  
I wrote an article on it for the Ten Pin Journal and it still is in my home computer so I can post it later today.
Dick Evans saw it and wrote a column on it, although he somewhat misunderstood a couple things in it.

riggs

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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2008, 08:12:02 AM »
Schlem definitely edited the article to take out the lane management stuff.  
Someone obviously didn't like it.
What was Jack Nicholson's famous line in "A Few Good Men"?


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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2008, 08:34:41 AM »
What "You need me on that Wall"?

riggs

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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2008, 08:48:12 AM »
"You can't handle the truth."

FYI - Drilled a VIRTUAL and a HY-ROAD yesterday.  Will use them this weekend.

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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2008, 08:49:11 AM »
quote:
Schlem definitely edited the article to take out the lane management stuff.  
Someone obviously didn't like it.
What was Jack Nicholson's famous line in "A Few Good Men"?




Why did he do that?  I liked his article because he told the real story.  He shouldn't have to edit the article because of lane tatics!  That's BS!

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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2008, 08:51:58 AM »
I found the article both refreshing and informative. I guess the powers that be want to avoid an interplanetary ball company war.

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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2008, 04:37:39 PM »
Brunswick bowlers are just as "guilty" of doing this as Storm or Columbia bowlers, ha.

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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2008, 04:54:47 PM »
   Jeff Richgels' Ten Pin Journal Column VI 2005-06

   If you missed last season's Denny's PBA World Championship you missed one of the all-time best blow-ups in PBA history.
   Brian Voss memorably lost his composure in losing to Chris Loschetter, at one point grabbing a camera and exclaiming, "Ban sanding bowling balls!" although his exact words were not clear at the time.
   Voss's actions caused an uproar on the PBA message boards, with some questioning his sportsmanship.
   Voss answered by explaining that Loschetter had rolled a sanded ball during most of practice up 7-9 boards toward the 3-pin, not even trying to hit the pocket. When the show started, Loschetter, who throws a much bigger hook than Voss's normal style, moved in and swung his shot toward that dried out area.
   "I don't agree with this," Voss wrote. "Unfortunately, there's no rule to prevent it. . . . Nothing against him, just the rules that allow integrity to be destroyed."
   The incident brought to the forefront a long-simmering issue that comes up in regional competition as well.
      Is it cheating to try to "set up" a lane? Does it make a difference if you do it to make your shot easier or your opponent's shot harder?
   Clearly, it is not cheating, since there's no rule defining practice. And it would be almost impossible to craft one – who is going to be the judge, and what about spare shots and changing lines and balls?
   But is it ethical?
      My aim when I compete is to win while playing within the rules. So if the rules allow me to do something that can help me win, I do it.
   I have rolled shots with the aim of "setting up" a lane – usually to help my line and once to hurt an opponents.
   "Defense" is rare because two players usually play similar lines, but I did it against close friend Jeff Carter in 2004-05 where I was playing an outside line and he was playing an inside line. He was crushing me for the second straight game in a best 3-of-5 match. So for the last few frames of the second game I went in to his area with my most sanded ball (a box finish Fear Factor) and threw shots that dried up that area.
   He then struggled the next two games and I tied the match before he finally made a major adjustment the fifth game and shot a huge game to win the match.
   Without that "defense" I probably would have lost in three straight games.
   Did I have mixed emotions? Sure. (Carter had no problem with what I did.)
   But what really bothered me is that the rules put me in that situation.
   The PBA Tour recently changed the practice rules in an effort to prevent setting up a lane.
   Prior to the change, players had 15 minutes of practice on their match play pair. That has been cut to just five minutes – so long as open pairs are available for players to loosen up before the official practice on their pairs.  
   While 15 minutes is plenty of time to use a sanded ball to dry up an area of the lane with shot after shot – or a plastic ball to carry oil down in a certain way -- five is problematic.
      The five-minute rule – which regionals will use when extra lanes are available – is a good start, but to completely eliminate "setting up" a lane, I believe the PBA should adopt Pete Weber's oft-stated position and bring back moving pairs every game during match play – just as it was done during the old round-robin format.
   Then you wouldn't be able to sacrifice a game in an effort to win the next one by playing "defense" as I did against Carter.
   
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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2008, 07:42:12 PM »
Thanks, Riggs a great read. I really wish I could have read what Schlem had originally wrote. I can tell by some of the previous posts how some people could have had a problem with the content though.

Onto the "defense" idea. I, for one, do not see the big deal in it. I definitely do not see it as cheating or even being unethical, but that is just my opinion.
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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2008, 10:19:56 PM »
Anybody happened have a copy of the orginal Schlem report before he edited and took it down?

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Re: Schlemer report on World Championship
« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2008, 11:55:39 PM »
As far as I know, the only difference is the "Team Mexico" reference has been removed.  There might be others, but I think that might have ruffled a few feathers of the transplanted Muskies.
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