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Title: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: tennispro11_7 on December 07, 2012, 01:04:58 AM
Just curious as I have an anarchy but will probably be looking for a new ball soon and I love the anarchy....it has been a great ball for a stroker like myself.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: millertime0299 on December 07, 2012, 09:08:52 AM
I would go with a Nano Pearl.  It is an Asymmetric pearl like the Anarchy.  The Nano Pearl is going to be a little bit stronger off the spot than your Anarchy but you can get a very similar reaction with the proper layout.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: Gene J Kanak on December 07, 2012, 10:00:01 AM
If you really like the Anarchy and aren't worried about trying something new, I'd have to imagine you could find a new Anarchy somewhere. Try ebay.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: storm22 on December 07, 2012, 11:04:02 AM
If you really like the Anarchy and aren't worried about trying something new, I'd have to imagine you could find a new Anarchy somewhere. Try ebay.

They are actually more rare than you'd imagine.  Now that they are retired, people want crazy amounts for them.  I saw a NIB on ebay sell Buy it now for 199 plus shipping!!! I would never spend that much on one but someone did.  I have 2 NIB in the basement!!!
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: northface28 on December 07, 2012, 12:43:44 PM
I would go with a Nano Pearl.  It is an Asymmetric pearl like the Anarchy.  The Nano Pearl is going to be a little bit stronger off the spot than your Anarchy but you can get a very similar reaction with the proper layout.

This is not true for most Bowlers.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: tennispro11_7 on December 07, 2012, 01:14:46 PM
just to add a little bit more information..i use a pin up (over ring finger) drilling.  Because of multiple wrist surgeries, I only have about 200-225 for a rev rate.  I average around 210.  I The vast majority of the time I'm bowling on medium volume.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: tommyboy74 on December 07, 2012, 04:27:51 PM
The Nano Pearl will be the most similar.  Overall, the core numbers are almost identical.  The Anarchy's Origin Core had 2.49RG/.054 Diff whereas the Nano Pearl has 2.48RG/.052 Diff on the Shape-Lock Core.  The NRG Pearl cover will be slightly stronger but you should have a very similar motion overall with the right layout.

If you look towards the Lucid, you'll find more of a pure pearl cover compared to having the NRG additives.  Big difference is the shape of the M.A.D. Core will be more rolly whereas the Shape-Lock Core seems to be a little more continuous and angular in the back part of the lane.  The Lucid's 2.52 RG/.050 Diff numbers are similar to what the Anarchy had but you'll end up with a higher RG/lower Diff combo.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: millertime0299 on December 07, 2012, 06:15:35 PM
I would go with a Nano Pearl.  It is an Asymmetric pearl like the Anarchy.  The Nano Pearl is going to be a little bit stronger off the spot than your Anarchy but you can get a very similar reaction with the proper layout.

This is not true for most Bowlers.
As tommyboy74 stated, the RG and Diff numbers are very similar with the main difference being cover.  The R3X pearl is not that much of a step down from NRG so he should see a very similar reaction shape.  The MB diff is a little bit higher on the Shape Lock HD core which means it will read friction harder than the Anarchy, hence the "stronger off the spot" comment.  It most definitely is true for ALL bowlers.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: northface28 on December 07, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
When I think of the VNP, ”more off the spot” than an Anarchy is pure comedy. The VNP was considered by most relatively soft downlane.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: tommyboy74 on December 08, 2012, 12:36:27 AM
Here is a comparison video done a while back with the VG Nano Pearl and the Anarchy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YzR-okrnm4
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: millertime0299 on December 08, 2012, 08:56:13 AM
Here is a comparison video done a while back with the VG Nano Pearl and the Anarchy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YzR-okrnm4
Thanks for posting this.  The video doesn't lie.  The Nano Pearl vs. Anarchy comparison proved that the Nano Pearl IS stronger off the spot.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: northface28 on December 08, 2012, 10:34:32 AM
Ok? Just because the VNP has more overall hook does not mean its more in the back.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: millertime0299 on December 08, 2012, 12:54:31 PM
Ok? Just because the VNP has more overall hook does not mean its more in the back.
No...you're right about that.  However, the MB diff of .020 in the VNP versus .017 in the Anarchy DOES mean the VNP will read the friction harder and therefore, backend more.  The difference isn't going to be huge BUT there will be a difference.  They are both pearls with early rolling cores but Nano's core backends harder.  Simple as that.  It's physics.  The numbers don't lie.  Granted, layouts can tame the backend reaction BUT if both balls are layed out the same then the Nano Pearl is going to be stronger in the mids as well as the backend.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: northface28 on December 08, 2012, 02:59:42 PM
I simply disagree, I had both balls, laid out the same and the VNP was not as much downlane. IMO, the cover slowed down faster, thus softer in the back.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: millertime0299 on December 08, 2012, 05:47:47 PM
I simply disagree, I had both balls, laid out the same and the VNP was not as much downlane. IMO, the cover slowed down faster, thus softer in the back.
Obviously there wasn't enough volume of oil for the VNP.  Perfect example of a ball not being used on a condition for which it was meant.  Both balls thrown on HEAVY oil with the same layout will result in the VNP being "harder off the spot".
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: northface28 on December 08, 2012, 06:11:00 PM
Sorry, i use balls for reaction shapes, not ”heavy oil”, ”medium oil”, or ”light oil” cookie cutter categories. But then again, youre suggesting using shiny, pearl balls on ”heavy oil” so i question your ability to read ball motion.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: millertime0299 on December 09, 2012, 08:51:38 AM
Sorry, i use balls for reaction shapes, not ”heavy oil”, ”medium oil”, or ”light oil” cookie cutter categories. But then again, youre suggesting using shiny, pearl balls on ”heavy oil” so i question your ability to read ball motion.
From Storm's website - "our new release will glide through the heads more easily than the original Virtual Gravity Nano yet still handle heavy oil."
I guess you know more about it than Storm???  You are wrong.  Accept it and move on.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: avabob on December 10, 2012, 01:45:03 PM
I have had the Anarchy, Nano Pearl, and Lucid.  Nano Pearl was much stronger in the mids than Anarchy, but both tend to burn a little early unless you have a lot of balls speed.  Also my Anarchy seemed to lose its box reaction rather quickly, and I know some other top players who said the same thing.

 Lucid core gives it quite a bit different look than the other two.  Very rolly, but stronger back end. 

If you liked the Anarchy, you will be more likely to like the Lucid than the NP.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: northface28 on December 10, 2012, 04:23:12 PM
Sorry, i use balls for reaction shapes, not ”heavy oil”, ”medium oil”, or ”light oil” cookie cutter categories. But then again, youre suggesting using shiny, pearl balls on ”heavy oil” so i question your ability to read ball motion.
From Storm's website - "our new release will glide through the heads more easily than the original Virtual Gravity Nano yet still handle heavy oil."
I guess you know more about it than Storm???  You are wrong.  Accept it and move on.

Marketing fluff & it worked on you..
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: millertime0299 on December 10, 2012, 08:57:26 PM
I own both balls and find that the VNP is a little bit stronger on the backend.  No marketing fluff.  Sorry.
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: avabob on December 15, 2012, 11:05:15 AM
Just as an aside, there are situations where pearl balls work best for good players on heavy long oil.  I know that squaring up and using hold area is a lost art among most younger players, but using lots of surface to try to open up a long pattern is often self defeating.  You end up in no mans land where you cant open the shot up, and you cant square up either. 
Title: Re: what current storm ball best compares to the anarchy?
Post by: storm22 on December 15, 2012, 12:17:06 PM
Just as an aside, there are situations where pearl balls work best for good players on heavy long oil.  I know that squaring up and using hold area is a lost art among most younger players, but using lots of surface to try to open up a long pattern is often self defeating.  You end up in no mans land where you cant open the shot up, and you cant square up either. 


I throw my Anarchy on the Shark with lots of success.  I tried throwing a Nano but didn't get as good a look as with the Anarchy.  Would get down and hold instead of overreacting to the end of the pattern.