After taking Excaliber's advice on ball first impressions, I decided to post my thoughts on this "fabled" ball.

First off my initial feelings about the Deuce are not too great, I don't see where all the hype came from for such an average ball.  The drilling layout most likely is the factor of my dislikes, but that also is the advantage of why I'd keep it in my bag.

I originally wanted the Deuce drilled with the RAD in strong position, and I didn't care how the PIN or CG were laid out.  Since I didn't have any real plans on using it during competition I said, "What the hell."

When I picked up the Deuce it was laid out label with the RAD in the track.  I asked the driller why and he said I told him not to stack the PIN and CG, which is somewhat true, but I told him to put the RAD next to the thumb even if it meant a stacked drill.

I get on the lanes and I'm practicing with the Deuce to find out drilled this way there is virtually no recovery on medium oil, it has a small backend arc but the ball rolls as soon as I release it.  I don't have a solid resin ball that works this way so I will welcome it to my bag because it offers me the same control I get with my Track Enforcer, but when the lanes start to dry out.

The most disappointing aspect of the Deuce throughout the whole night was the carry.  Alot of people mention the ball doesn't leave corner pins, well they're right.  Although I left every other back row pin besides the ten pin.  I tried many different adjustments but nothing worked well enough to carry consistently.  The hit is nothing special because I've seen and thrown harder hitting equipment.

My overall first impression may not be to exciting, but I think it will fit in well, and I must get used to the Deuce and like.  I know in the future even if I still dislike the ball that it will be useful anyways.
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APK: I wasn't making reference to any 'reviews' you've made regarding the Deuce or any other ball, so I'm sorry if I came across that way. You've always struck me as someone with good knowledge, so no offense intended.

I was partially talking from my own experience of making bad ball purchase decisions based on reading the the thoughts of others. I've been burned more than once because I did not do enough of my own homework

Given that the Deuce is a resin control ball, it's hard to evaluate it based on most other equipment. If I had not previously owned the El Nino Gold and the La Nina, the Deuce would have been a shock to me too.
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I have been going thru a bad case of "Deuceitist" myself since day one. I buy thr X Factor and it changes my game, so of course the Deuce is next. Having great luck with the X Factor drilled 1B pattern, I had the same done to my Deuce even though my driller said no. It has drove me crazy ever since I got it. I did find a few conditions (more sport)that it worked great on, but on most of the conditions I see it acts just like what most on here are saying...flat! I have talked to the Local rep twice about it, as I want to use the ball so much and really can't because of the results. His first comment was that it needed oil to work better. His second was based on me asking him how to redrill it. I toook it to my driller and he said redrilling it is hard because he is not sure were the track will be on a stacked drilling and that it might roll over my old thumb. So, I am having him redo my thumb (fit was off) and change the surface.....I am glad that I read this thread because I just dropped it off with him last night. Any thoughts on redrilling up a Deuce? Thanks BG