Author Topic: Justifying a 5.0 (Read 2369 times)

Rock77 · « **on:** June 19, 2005, 03:40:23 AM »

Guys I am trying to justify whether or not I should get a 5.0. I know its a great ball, all Track balls are great. I am just not sure how it stacks up or fits into my current arsenal (see profile).

Will this ball react similar to my Arsenal Angular? Will it handle more/less oil than the Angular??

I compare it to the Angular cause it seems that it is real similar. Help me make a decision.
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SteveAustin2808 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 19, 2005, 01:11:57 PM »

Hey Ryan,

the 5.0 is more aggressive than the angular buddy. While I have never thrown an Angular or Aggressive, the 5.0 is definitely more aggressive than the Angular because of its asymmetric core. I know Carl, Rick, and Clint can help ya out more but I figured I could thrown in my 2 cents to help ya out. It is a great ball and I have got great results out of it throwing it direct. Straighter is greater with this ball when I throw it. Mine is drilled with the Pin below the bridge, MB @ 5 o'clock. So while the Mass Bias in that position makes it hook, this layout tamed it down for someone of my style. A tweener such as yourself could play this direct as long as you kept it out of the box in my opinion. I always keep my stuff OOB because of the previous disasters I have had with other equipment by sanding/polishing. If you get one and it is not as aggressive as you would like to be, you can always alter the surface to however it fits your game. To me it is just a polished version of the GP2 even though they both have different cores and coverstocks. Hope this helps Ryan and let us know what you decide!

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Rock77 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 19, 2005, 09:49:10 PM »

So I would be looking at the 5.0 sitting above my Angular but below my Mutant Mania??

I think I am gonna splurge for a 5.0 but I want to package it with a Desert Heat to save on shipping. I cant wait til the Desert Heats are available!!
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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #3 on:** June 19, 2005, 09:50:48 PM »

Ryan,

The 5.0 will fit between your Angular and your GP2. I am not sure about the Mutant Mania, I have not thrown it and have not seen it thrown. I have thrown the Mutant Joker which I believe is supposed to be stronger than the Mania.

The 5.0 is definately worth picking up. On house patterns or patterns with fresh backends the 5.0 can open up a lane very nicely. Odds are it could even cover more boards on that type of shot than your GP2. To compare it to the Arsenal Angular, the 5.0 will roll sooner and have close to the same backend reaction that the Angular has....maybe more actually.

chitown,

I believe if the 5.0 and Aggressive (I say "believe" because I have not tried it) had the same surface prep the 5.0 would be stronger.

-EX-
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clintdaley · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2005, 07:41:25 AM »

I totally agree with Ex!

Clint

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tenpinspro · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2005, 10:53:56 AM »

Hey Rock,

The 5.0 has a very strong backend reaction, even stronger than the Angular for me but they are drilled differently. The Angular comes OOB a little duller it seems compared to the 5.0 and I haven't polished mine to compare, I like the separation as it is. By definition, it is a weaker ball compared to the Aggressive. The Aggressive should roll sooner and more evenly than the 5.0.
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Rock77 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2005, 10:55:59 AM »

Hey Ex

You say you have thrown a Mutant Joker, how does that react?? It is supposed to be the same ball as a Mutant right?

I can see that being stronger if thats the case, the original Mutant has a stronger cover than the Mutant Mania.
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2005, 11:14:55 AM »

Hey Rock,

Your Mania is a Mutant core with the Sheer cover right? I have a couple of guys who throw that and I'd say the 5.0 is way stronger in comparison. I also have a Joker, haven't punched it yet.
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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2005, 11:15:11 AM »

Ryan,

The Joker has the original Mutant core with the coverstock of the FreakOut. I believe the Mania has the same cover as the Sheer Havoc.

The Joker is pretty strong but probably due to surface prep (slightly polished) it is a couple of boards weaker than the Mutant.

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Rock77 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 20, 2005, 01:18:32 PM »

So, with what you guys are telling me about the Mutant Mania, I am guessing that my Mutant Mania and Arsenal Angular probably fit the same slot as far as oil handling capabilities, but offer up different reaction shapes.

That would mean that I have a huge gap in my arsenal between my GP2 and the next step down which could be my Slash.

With that said, I could be looking to set up my arsenal like this:

GP2 - Heavy
Blue Heat or Arsenal Aggressive - Med/Hvy
Xception 5.0 - ??
Slash - Med
Arsenal Angular - Med (flip reaction)
Mutant Mania - Med (Arc reaction)
Freakazoid - Med
Xception - Med/Light
Heat - Light
Desert Heat - Dry

How's that sound?? Looks to me like I have alot of med oil balls in my lineup and it probably wouldnt hurt to part with a couple. What do you guys think?? Help me sort this out!

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clintdaley · « **Reply #10 on:** June 20, 2005, 01:20:42 PM »

Sounds like you have everything covered. Just a matter of picking between the Aggressive/Blue Heat and if to get a 5.0.

Clint
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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #11 on:** June 20, 2005, 01:23:57 PM »

Ryan,

The 5.0 is going to cover med/heavy conditions as well, just in a different manner than either the Arsenal Aggressive or the Blue Heat. The 5.0 is going to go a little longer due to its OOB surface, but it is going to blow your mind in the backends.

-EX-
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Rock77 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 20, 2005, 03:00:04 PM »

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Sounds like you have everything covered. Just a matter of picking between the Aggressive/Blue Heat and if to get a 5.0.

Clint
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Yeah, so which of these two should I pick?? How will these react compared to each other on the lane?? Anyone?!?

BTW, do you guys think I have too many med oil balls??
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clintdaley · « **Reply #13 on:** June 20, 2005, 03:10:47 PM »

The Aggressive will be a little stronger overall than the Blue. It will be closer to the GP2. If you want some separation, the Blue Heat sounds from the reviews it is a little less than the Aggressive, meaning it would give you more separation from the GP2. Guess you need to fill in the blank on how mcu difference you want between selections.

Clint
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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #14 on:** June 20, 2005, 03:18:14 PM »

Ryan,

You do have quite a few balls for medium....HOWEVER (and some may disagree with this) I like the balls you have there. Each will give you a different look and reaction on mediums. You more than likely will not need to carry all of them, but they are good to have on hand.

I have only thrown the Blue Heat briefly, but from what I have seen so far if I had to decide between it and the Aggressive I am going to get the Aggressive. The deciding factor would be the PEAK Particles. Even when used on a condition that is probably too dry for the Aggressive it still tends to offer up some backend reaction.

-EX-
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