For some reason, when I throw this ball, it turns as soon as it hits the lane, skids until the back end, then hooks again, going brooklyn if I am lucky. This will happen on the fresh, so I know it is not the heads being completely bone dry. The surface is 4000+polish. Any ideas on what is happening?

I Do not know the measurements,  but it is drilled for a controllable and early reaction. Reaction being uncontrollable is not the issue. The issue is that the only length I get before it makes a turn in the heads is the length i get from lofting it. I generally play 10-12 at the arrows with the breakpoint at 8-10

For some reason, when I throw this ball, it turns as soon as it hits the lane, skids until the back end, then hooks again, going brooklyn if I am lucky. This will happen on the fresh, so I know it is not the heads being completely bone dry. The surface is 4000+polish. Any ideas on what is happening?

As a safety measure, some centers will take a towel/rag and wipe down the first couple feet passed the foul line so that if someone sticks and takes that step across the foul line onto the lane, that part of the lane is dry enough that the bowler will not slip and fall and risk injury.  Is it possible that this center is doing that and your lay down point is in this dry area causing that early hook before it skids again? 

Quote from: lilpossum1 on October 02, 2013, 01:17:04 PM

For some reason, when I throw this ball, it turns as soon as it hits the lane, skids until the back end, then hooks again, going brooklyn if I am lucky. This will happen on the fresh, so I know it is not the heads being completely bone dry. The surface is 4000+polish. Any ideas on what is happening?

As a safety measure, some centers will take a towel/rag and wipe down the first couple feet passed the foul line so that if someone sticks and takes that step across the foul line onto the lane, that part of the lane is dry enough that the bowler will not slip and fall and risk injury.  Is it possible that this center is doing that and your lay down point is in this dry area causing that early hook before it skids again? 

I've worked in bowling centers off and on for over 30 years since my teenage years and i've NEVER heard of this practice being done.

The center I use this ball at uses a squirt bottle and a mop. The oil man squirts oil a few feet before the foul line, and back mops it toward the foul line, so I know there is oil that far forward. I have already put more polish on it, and it did the same thing. I do not believe it has a weight hole

Maybe it is this center?  Have you tried this ball at any different houses?

I have thrown this ball in three different houses (four if you consider one house having 20 synthetic lanes and 10 wooden lanes in a different part of the building.) On the two synthetic places, the ball merely reads very early. On the shot that is the topic of this post, the ball changes direction   with a noticeable angle almost like it is hitting something. (Wood lanes) For the final set of lanes, which are also wood, I cannot give an answer. I rarely bowl there. I usually bowl there during tournaments where the lanes are too slick for the use of this ball. last Friday, I did bowl there again though. The lanes were so fried that I was lofting to around 20' with 17-18 mph. I bowled on a Friday night and the last oil was Tuesday night, and there was plenty of open bowling between those two days

glad to hear its better
dont be afraid to adjust the surface if its not quite right

matching up the right surface to lane conditions can be the difference between a 650 series or a 750 or higher