Author Topic: 400 grit gp2 (Read 2432 times)

shipper50 · « **on:** October 07, 2005, 01:54:43 PM »

My driller took my gp2 down to 400 grit today and I wanted opinions on what the ball might do. Its drilled pin under ring finger and mb right of thumb. Weight hole is near my pap as the ball was drilled by someone out of state.

Also, I had a arsenal reactive drilled today with 2 inch pin that is under my ring finger with weight hole on my pap for sure.

Thanks
Shipper

Slopsurprise · « **Reply #1 on:** October 07, 2005, 09:59:16 PM »

Sounds like you would need a flood to throw that GP2!!!
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shipper50 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 07, 2005, 10:04:34 PM »

I bowl on synthetics and the pattern is 35 buffed to 40, 8-8 from what I was told. I can't get the ball to turn inside 10 on the first game and I have missed a ton of 7 pin spares do to the oil in the middle.

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Sounds like you would need a flood to throw that GP2!!!
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 07, 2005, 10:32:14 PM »

What Slopsurprise said...
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clintdaley · « **Reply #4 on:** October 07, 2005, 10:49:20 PM »

Exactly, very strong!

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shipper50 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2005, 09:10:30 AM »

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Sounds like you would need a flood to throw that GP2!!!
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I tried it yesterday in practice on a ths that had about 6 games prior to me. You all say I would need a flood for this ball? I don't know if I just don't turn the ball much anymore, but the ball DOES NOT hook that much. The lanes were much tighter than in the past and the ball does finish, but as far as hooking off the lane, not today.

I took my delta1, slash, gp2, and new arsenal reactive and threw them all on this shot. I would say the delta1 had more back end. The delta is drilled with the pin above the ring finger and the others pin below ring finger.

I guess I bowl on lanes without much backends and don't see this big hook like your all saying the gp2 gets with taking the cover down. I will wait and see in my other house and get a another view point about the gp2 cover.

Shipper

clintdaley · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2005, 09:20:55 AM »

If a THS had about 6 games on it, and you were using a GP2 drilled that strong, thus the reason why it didn't hook as much as you thought. I firmly feel there was not enough oil on this shot, and maybe not on your fresh THS depending how long/thick the pattern is. You may have to reserve it for the true folld you see at tourneys.

As for the Delta having more backend, it should. Its reactive vs the particle of the GP2 which will pick up quicker (especially yours) and thus have less backend. Also, The flip block on the Delta will make it have more backend as well.

A good test for me is when I can go out and if my Arsenal Aggressive/Slash/Blue heat is outhooking my GP2, that tells me right off the bat there is not enough oil for the GP2 and its burning up EARLY and saving nothing for the backend.

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Rock77 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2005, 09:20:55 AM »

Shipper,

With the cover that dull, you really need oil to get the ball to work. The reason why it wasnt hooking much, if at all, is probably because it was burning up and losing energy.

The OOB surface on that ball is plenty for oil, but you have it dulled to 400. You are going to need more than a flood to use that on. That is why the other stuff was out hooking the GP2. This ball is very strong and will burn up early if there is not enough oil.
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shipper50 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2005, 09:28:33 AM »

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Shipper,

With the cover that dull, you really need oil to get the ball to work. The reason why it wasn't hooking much, if at all, is probably because it was burning up and losing energy.

The OOB surface on that ball is plenty for oil, but you have it dulled to 400. You are going to need more than a flood to use that on. That is why the other stuff was out hooking the GP2. This ball is very strong and will burn up early if there is not enough oil.
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Would someone explain burning up to me? I am from the old school and only know by what I see the ball doing with my eyes. If the lanes have a ton of oil in the middle and not much outside and backend wont the ball just arc into the pocket? The ball does finish, but as far as the big reaction, the ball does basically what it did before taking it down.

Shipper

Strider · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2005, 09:30:53 AM »

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I tried it yesterday in practice on a ths that had about 6 games prior to me. You all say I would need a flood for this ball? I don't know if I just don't turn the ball much anymore, but the ball DOES NOT hook that much. The lanes were much tighter than in the past and the ball does finish, but as far as hooking off the lane, not today.

I took my delta1, slash, gp2, and new arsenal reactive and threw them all on this shot. I would say the delta1 had more back end. The delta is drilled with the pin above the ring finger and the others pin below ring finger.

I guess I bowl on lanes without much backends and don't see this big hook like your all saying the gp2 gets with taking the cover down. I will wait and see in my other house and get a another view point about the gp2 cover.

Shipper

You already answered your own question. Dull balls are made to grip when other won't. It's about oil handling capability, not about hook, covering boards, and certainly not about backend. If you want backend, you don't take a strong particle ball and dull it to 400 grit. Save a sanded GP2 for when the oil is both heavier and longer than what you're seeing now. When the others are going straight and still skidding near the pocket, the GP2 will be what you need.
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clintdaley · « **Reply #10 on:** October 10, 2005, 09:38:35 AM »

Burning too early means a ball that is rolling quickly/early in the lane from the lack of oil and/or a strong drilled ball. When there is not enough oil, the ball from the friction it is creating, will try to roll quicker than its meant too and thus is using its energy too early in the lane. When it uses energy early in the lane, there is not enough left for the backend. Thus why if a Slash is outhooking your GP2, you know the GP2 is rolling too quickly and can not save enough energy for the back part of the lane. The Slash, from being resin and not as aggressive overall, will get though the heads better then a GP2 and is useful for a condition like this. However, when there is enough oil to use your GP2, you will see the Slash go 55' and not make a hard enough turn, thus there is too much oil, the ball is not creating enough friction and can not recover as well as you need.

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shipper50 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 10, 2005, 11:18:24 AM »

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Burning too early means a ball that is rolling quickly/early in the lane from the lack of oil and/or a strong drilled ball. When there is not enough oil, the ball from the friction it is creating, will try to roll quicker than its meant too and thus is using its energy too early in the lane. When it uses energy early in the lane, there is not enough left for the backend. Thus why if a Slash is outhooking your GP2, you know the GP2 is rolling too quickly and can not save enough energy for the back part of the lane. The Slash, from being resin and not as aggressive overall, will get though the heads better then a GP2 and is useful for a condition like this. However, when there is enough oil to use your GP2, you will see the Slash go 55' and not make a hard enough turn, thus there is too much oil, the ball is not creating enough friction and can not recover as well as you need.

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I guess I didnt put in my other post what my slash was doing on this shot. I would say I had to more or less point the ball? I was playing at first around 15 out to 9 or so and the gp2 and delta would finish back while the slash wouldn't even turn into the pocket.

After about a game with this shot none of the balls would turn towards the pocket because of what I feel was carrying down.

I moved out and played the gp2 down and in 8-9 and had a shot.

Thanks for all the replies and help.

Shipper

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