Equipment Boards => Track => Topic started by: LuckyLefty on November 11, 2011, 05:15:09 AM
Title: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 11, 2011, 05:15:09 AM
Maybe....got one from another lefty on here.
The thing impressed me another bowler in my house so much....lots of push, lots of midlane, lots of smoothness lots of hit!
Not used to seeing this level of controllability with such a shiny 4000 coverstock!
Could it be the drilling....approximately 65 X 5 X 40
Regards,
Luckylefty
PS all of this from a core that looks a lot like my Vital Sign core which is drilled similar and moves nothing like this ball...
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.
James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: loop_zero on November 12, 2011, 04:31:02 AM
We have several guys throwing the 503c at my house and although none are lefties all of them are very strong. Much stronger than I would believe advertised. Great midlane roll and very strong continues backend. We have new Murray mml synthetic lanes and use kegal highroad as our house shot. Highroad is a 44' pattern and the ball is remarkable on the fresh. Little slugish after a 4-5 person squad has bowled but that's a decent amount of carry down.
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 13, 2011, 03:25:19 PM
Excuse my incorrect drilling numbers above.
45 degrees X 5 X 60 degrees....
Regards,
Luckylefty
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.
James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: DrBob806 on November 24, 2011, 08:23:33 AM
I was considering this ball, as they claim you can play with the surface real easy. Can anybody else chime in on this piece?
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: Dave81644 on November 24, 2011, 08:40:27 AM
Im liking my 505t and 505c combo
i dont see where this ball would be an additional benefit to me right now.
300c is a bit of a head scratch for me, I have re-drilled it, tried multiple surfaces.
It is over/under on THS with 4000ab although its close on the short sport we are on.
Its more of a conditional piece than anything else.
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 24, 2011, 10:10:57 AM
It seems to me that if one goes to Track's site and sees the 505c and the 503C on their videos the difference is obvious.
It is almost seems if one likes small differences for their league shot for carry one could own both the 503c and 505c.
Regards,
Luckylefty
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.
James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: BobOhio on November 24, 2011, 02:29:21 PM
We have three bowlers on our team throwing the 503C, all different styles and releases.
All do very well with this ball and it can be used all night.
All three have seen an increase in average, hit is great.
BobOhio GO BUCKS
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: HAMMERDOWN103 on December 09, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
Another week or two and I'll let you know how it works for a two hander.
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Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: Jesse James on December 09, 2011, 02:04:07 PM
@Dave18644: Around here, the 300C is THE ball of choice to go to, on these varied broken down house shots, and in one house in particular.....on their regular house shot! It is smooth and predictable and carries well on a swing shot.
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Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 09, 2011, 02:17:52 PM
How much weaker is the 300T than the 503C?
Regards,
Luckylefty
PS or is it?
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.
James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: JamminJD on December 12, 2011, 08:13:06 AM
Man I love the 503C, great ball! So smooth and Controllable just like advertised!
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: JBracer2 on December 24, 2011, 09:18:08 AM
Picked one up I cant put it down very smooth and the carry has been great. I might have to check in to some other track balls.
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 24, 2011, 07:09:04 PM
To the trackers...
How much weaker is the 300T than the 503C.
Regards,
Luckylefty
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.
James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: John D Davis on December 24, 2011, 10:15:32 PM
Lucky, maybe i can help you on this comparison. I personally have never thrown either ball but I work in a shop and have seen multiple people throwing them etc. Even though the 300T has the lower core numbers so forth, it still reacts much earlier and smoother than anything in the whole 5 series except the "T" ball of course. Coverstock is the main reason behind ball reaction.
I may be dead wrong when I say this, but it seems that the 503C is more of a pearl coverstock than the 300T, but if the 300T is shined up past 3-4K Abralon it sort of looks pearl as well. I think the biggest reason these two balls are so different is because one is "Asymmetrical and the other being Symmetrical". Im also thinking the 300T is a mix of solid and pearl makeing the move so much different downlane.
If you are trying to decide on one or the other, then just take a look at your arsenal and see if you would rather have something flippy or more rolly, because the 300T will be more on the rollier side no matter how you drill it... I think they both handle about the same amount of oil overall so its your call. Good Luck, John
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: scotts33 on December 25, 2011, 08:31:09 AM
The 503C is a reactive pearl (MP Gen 4C) 800/1000/2000/4000 w/ FF polish over but with .003 intermediate differential with that amount of differential is so negligible that it's asymmetry is small it can be treated as a symmetrical. So, I would disagree that you would find much difference there.
The 300T is solid reactive (LMP Gen 1 Solid) 800, 1000, 2000, 4000 no polish.
Both will be good on medium lane conditions with the 503C better on lighter. The 503C will get slightly more length than the 300T and the 300T slightly more total hook.
Scott
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 25, 2011, 05:34:06 PM
Guys I thank you for your answers. Thanks to VBP Dustin.. I got both.!
John Davis I think I agree with you the 300T slightly earlier but with it's lower flare less recovery especially in carrydown for a similar drilling(first impression).
I am excited about getting the 300T drilled more specifically for me.!
Regads,
Luckylefty
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.
James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: JBracer2 on January 03, 2012, 06:19:47 PM
Ball was so good I now have 716c and 811. All are very good.
Edited by JBracer2 on 1/3/2012 at 7:20 PM
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: AlBundy33 on January 04, 2012, 05:26:35 AM
Dropping mine off to get drilled today. I'm thinking that this will compliment my 607A quite nicely.
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Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: ripping drake on January 04, 2012, 08:34:56 PM
Do you 503C lovers think that this ball would compliment the 505T? Specs are very different as is the coverstock....I wonder if there is enough of a difference (505T vs 503C) to justify paying less money than you would for the 716C.?
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: Curt_Dupre on January 04, 2012, 11:41:57 PM
505T and 503C definitely compliment each other. 505T is a dull solid that picks up really good in the midlane. 503C is a shiny pearl, that you can go to when the 505T is losing some hit. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: AlBundy33 on January 09, 2012, 09:49:58 AM
Threw the 503C Thursday night the third game after our pair was totally trashed (not that it was in good shape to start with). I will say that it gave me a look on the dry that I haven't had in quite some time, I could hit the ball as hard as I wanted and it wouldn't overreact. I want to see if I can get it to start just a touch earlier by going over it with a 2000 pad, followed by a 4000 pad to see if it will make even that much better.
I'm very impressed with what Track has done and looking to add a couple more pieces to compliment both the 607A and 503C in the not so distant future.
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Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: DeadWood Pro Shop on January 11, 2012, 02:30:03 AM
Lefty, I am a huge track guy, and hopefully I can help you out. The 503 by design is to allow the player to stand closer to the friction with out it over reacting. I originally thought it would be good to use from in and throwing right on dryer patterns. Turns out this ball is better for being able to stand more right. Also, it's an under advertised fact that the cores in the 503 have magnetite. Can't wait for a 508a to drill and take some vids with.
As for the 300c compared to the 503c. The 300c is the only symmetric ball made by Track. It has a weaker core than any of the other Tack balls, and the amount of pearl will allow the ball to conserve energy and still hit the pocket hard when the lanes dry out. In my experience the 300c is a great Ball change. It is my dry lane ball after my cyclone hooks too much.
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 11, 2012, 07:59:26 AM
Deadwood....great tips.
On the 300s, my question was really devoted to the 300T?
I have thrown it but drilled very weakly for my PAP.
Any more great ideas on it?
Regards,
Luckylefty
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.
James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: 503C....is this ball THAT good?
Post by: AlBundy33 on January 11, 2012, 08:35:05 AM
+1......I couldn't have said it any better than that. Not to switch subjects, but what I've seen so far out of the 508A on film, I wonder if it's worth it to consider this piece because from going to my 607A to the 503C, it's about a 6 and 2 move right between the two pieces.
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