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n00dlejester

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Track Coverstocks
« on: August 05, 2011, 01:00:45 PM »
Hey Track Folks,
 
So I recently picked up my first Track ball ever, the 718A, and I'm really loving the reaction from this ball.  Because of the success, I'm tempted to start checking out other Track gear.  So as I browsed their site, I noticed that there are like a million different coverstocks.  Does anybody have insight into how their coverstock system works?  Any and all insight would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Re: Track Coverstocks
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2011, 11:02:29 PM »
That's what the "numbering system" is supposed to do for customers. Here is an example of how it was explained to me.

 

 The first number (like the 5 in the 505A) supposedly denotes the performance level. With three levels originally (5's, 7's, and 9's). Since then, they have added a 6 series, a 3 series, and a 1 series, with the 1 series ball being a polyester spare ball, a 100P. (P is for Polyester)

 

 The next two numbers (like the 05 in the 505A) supposedly denotes the core strength, with higher numbers equaling stronger cores.

 

 The letter at the end (like the A in the 505A) originally denoted the type of reaction you could expect from the ball, with A meaning ANGULAR, C meaning CONTROL, and T meaning TRACTION.

 

 The C was later said to mean CONTINUATION on the 919C, and the AT on the 916AT was said to mean ALL TERRAIN. They also produced one 6 series ball, the 607A SE, with the SE meaning Special Edition.

 

 SO, given all of this, it boils down to this. An entry level ball (a 500 series ball) SHOULD be outperformed by ANY of the higher level balls with similar core numbers, a 700 series ball SHOULD outperform everything EXCEPT the 900 series balls.

 

 To build an arsenal, this would give you several options. If you like the 505A, and just wanted something for more oil, you could either go to a 505T (for added traction), or a 718A to keep the sharp movement while still handling more oil.

 

 Problem is, their nice, neat little system doesn't always work. The 505T was a strong piece, and performed better than some of the higher rated balls. OOOPS.

 

 There are some really good guys here in the Track forum that are helpful many times. Hang in there, don't be shy, and ask LOTS of questions. There are those who will answer and be glad to help. 
 
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Re: Track Coverstocks
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2011, 11:05:38 PM »
There really is no cover system. The covers are told to you as to what they are. Excample lets take the 920T. It has the the HPGen 4 IMT cover. what this means is that this is the 4th generation HP coverstock with the Inte-Mix Technology (Hybrid). This is how the covers have been stated from the first ball out of the ebonite plant to the now. From the HP Gen 1 that was on the original Rising, to the new Haze HP9C cover. The HP covers are marked with HP, the Upper Mid is marked with UMP, and the Mid Performance is marked with MP. typical they are marked with the generation of the cover they have. All that means is basicly what year at ebonite the cover is from. Excample again, Gen 1 was the first year tracks products came out of ebonite.


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Re: Track Coverstocks
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2011, 12:02:23 AM »
A is angular
T is tracktion
C is control
P is plastic
AT is all terrain
 
CAT is a a common house pet
 
That is close as your going to get in covers because of the way they market their equipment. Don't look to much into it because it won't help. Use those simple ideas for what the ball is intended for and assume that is the correct coverstock.   Maybe email Track direct would help more 
  


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Re: Track Coverstocks
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2011, 12:04:25 AM »
Hey all, thank you kindly for these responses.
 
It's crazy how enigmatic Track is (possibly all Ebonite companies) regarding their coverstock names.   I think I'm going to take Kid's idea and e-mail track directly.  If I get any information from them, I'll be sure to let you know!


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Re: Track Coverstocks
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2011, 01:22:14 AM »
What other info are you looking for about the covers? The names of the covers I have already explained for you so if you let me know what els you want to know I can help. I did work for track per the old live chat when they had it on the web site and as tech support, so I would have no problem helping you understand what you want to know.


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Re: Track Coverstocks
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2011, 06:46:28 AM »
Hey n00dlejester,

 

 "Scoot" really is pretty knowledgeable. Is knowing the names of the covers more important than knowing how they work in relation to one another?

 

 If so, he already said they don't have official names, just designations that let you know what they are in relation to what came before.

 

 I didn't like the numbering system. Still don't. But it is what they have, and is supposed to work to let you know the balls OVERALL performance level, to enable you to know which way to go with their products to achieve the desired results without having to worry about exactly which cover is on which core.


 


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Re: Track Coverstocks
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2011, 05:52:40 PM »
Specifically what kind of coverstock information are you looking for?

Are you looking for response time to friction?

Are you looking for comparison to other balls in the Ebonite Brands?

 

The balls are engineered and designed to provide the reactions that the numbers dictate.

You can't make a 'T' ball into an 'A' ball by shining it and you can't make an 'A' ball a 'T' reaction by sanding it.

Changing the surface will enhance or retard the overall reaction of the coverstock not make it something it was not designed to be, I hope this helps a bit?

 

 

 


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Re: Track Coverstocks
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2011, 06:28:48 AM »
I am currently going through the same thing with the numbering system, I recently bought 4 Track balls for my wife:

 

715T, 715C, 607A SE, 505T.

 

My thinking was the way I listed them here was the way they would be strength wise, and boy was I wrong. I cant comment on the 715T because its not been drilled yet, but after seeing them trown by her last night from strongest to weakest goes: 505T, 607A, 715C.

 

One thing I noticed right off the bat for her was the 505T is ALOT of ball. I totally expected it to be weaker than the 607 solely based off the number system. While its not a major problem, I could see how this could confuse folks if they were to purchase a ball strictly trying to go by the numbers. I really figured the 715C would be the most ball of the 3 for her, I still expect the 715T to be a monster for her considering the strength of the 505T.

 

All three roll great for her, but I need to do some tweaking because the 715T and the 607A are very close, almost overlapping for her.


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Re: Track Coverstocks
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2011, 09:20:43 AM »
For me with those balls, it went 715T, 505T, 715C, 607A. You have to remember one thing with the numbering system. When they come out with a "T" ball for a given series (3,5,7,9), It will be stronger in the front than another "A" or "C" ball. The "T" Cover is the strongest cover they can put on that ball in the series. Think of it this way. Looking at Columbia's line. An Outburst would be considered a 505T ball. Yet the Ransom would be considered a 718A ball. Which ball will hook more? The outburst would for the simple fact it is a dull solid. But change the ball the Burst. Which would be considered a 505C ball. Then the Ransom would be stronger. The "T" balls have to be considered stronger because the covers are so strong and dull. Let me know if you have any questions.


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