Author Topic: Comparing the new 716T and Mission X (Read 3274 times)

tommyboy74 · « **on:** February 08, 2012, 07:45:45 AM »

I was just wondering how similar and/or different the 716T and the Mission X are. Since I sold part of my arsenal, I am looking for a good heavy oil ball and these are 2 of my top choices. Any feedback is welcome.

My arsenal

Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Storm Anarchy: 1500 polished
Medium-Heavy Oil: Track 919C: 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Ebonite Vital Energy: 4000 AB
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished

Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished

delpzooka · « **Reply #1 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:59:01 PM »

I dont know much about the 716T but I have seen quite a few Mission Xs being thrown where I bowl and it seems like a very good piece. I purchased the Dark Encounter for myself about a month ago and it is a good ball as well. I dont think you can go wrong with either of your choices.

Curt_Dupre · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2012, 03:45:02 PM »

We haven't even gotten the 716T yet. As soon as I get it, I will let you know. They could be close, but who knows. Only Fagan and Beasley have thrown it so far.

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tommyboy74 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2012, 04:41:44 PM »

Thanks Curt

My arsenal

Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Storm Anarchy: 1500 polished
Medium-Heavy Oil: Track 919C: 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Ebonite Vital Energy: 4000 AB
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished

Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished

Curt_Dupre · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2012, 07:31:02 PM »

No problem. Looking at the numbers, the differential, and intermediate differential are both higher in the 716T. So the core is a touch stronger than the Mission X. But really won't be able to let you know until we get them.

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tommyboy74 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:57:42 PM »

That is definitely a good thing. Even comparing it to my Nano, the 716T has a higher diff/higher RG. From what it sounds so far, it may be next to join my arsenal. I am going to wait to see what the general consensus is from staffers like yourself and regular bowlers first. It looked great when Fagan was throwing it on a tough shot. Also, the amount of recovery that Beasley and Hanson had in the demo video make it look like a must have.

My arsenal

Heavy Oil: Storm Virtual Gravity Nano: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Storm Anarchy: 1500 polished
Medium-Heavy Oil: Track 919C: 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Ebonite Vital Energy: 4000 AB
Medium Oil: Roto Grip Nomad Dagger: 1500 polished

Medium-Light Oil: Roto Grip Rising Star: 1500 polished

DeadWood Pro Shop · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2012, 10:59:58 PM »

I asked Rich about the 716t. And he told me it would be the earliest rolling ball they make. And the xt cover on the ball is supposed to give it more grab than the 715t. From my experiences with the mission x, the ball goes long and is very angular for a dull ball. Until the t comes out this is all based on the info I was told

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Dave81644 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:26:54 PM »

http://trackbowling.com/products/product_detail/716t

check out the above link where they compare the 715t and 716t
715t is one awesome ball, 716t should be as well

tommyboy74 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:38:35 PM »

Thanks Dave for the link

My arsenal

Heavy Oil: Roto Grip Defiant (solid): 3000 AB

Medium-Heavy Oil: Track 919C (solid): 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Ebonite Vital Energy (pearl): 4000 AB

Medium Oil: Hammer Brick (hybrid): 2000 polished

Medium-Light Oil: Track 505T (solid): 4000 AB

Curt_Dupre · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2012, 04:18:24 PM »

Ok tommy, this is only a first impression of the ball. Drilled it 5 1/4 off axis pin up. Mass bias at about 40 degrees. This put my pin above my middle finger and mass was about 2 inches right of thumb. OOB with no hole. Bowled on the house shot after the senior morning league. The ball looks pretty dull, so I assumed it would read quicker than my 715T and be smoother. But what I got was a pleasant surprise. Ball got through the front pretty easy but once it picked up in the midlane, and just kept going. It never burned up which I liked a lot. The more I went left and opened up my angle the better the ball got. It never had a problem going left to right. Honestly I saw a lot of similarities in the 716T to the Mission X. Personally the 716T is going to be more overall ball. They should have stamped a 9 on this one because it has the most hook potential out of all the balls we have come out with so far. But what I really like is the way this ball retains energy. I will bowl league Monday on a fresh shot and let you know how it rolls on the fresh.

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tommyboy74 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2012, 04:52:39 PM »

That definitely sounds good. Now, I did pick up a Defiant and will be having that drilled sometime next week. From what you are saying, it sounds that the 716T can still have a very useful spot in my bag since 1 of the 2 houses I bowl and sub at puts down heavier volume. Basically, I would fit it in between the Defiant and the 919C (919C is drilled slightly weaker to be similar to what I had in my recently sold Storm Anarchy).

Best deal I did this past week was from one of our fellow members on here. I picked up a used 505T for a good price. I plan to plug and drill that as soon as UPS drops that off at my door. I'll tandem that up with my new Hammer Brick.

My Arsenal (as of February 2012)
Heavy Oil: Roto Grip Defiant: 2000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Track 919C: 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Ebonite Vital Energy: 4000 AB
Medium Oil: Hammer Brick: 2000 polished

Medium-Light Oil: Track 505T: 4000 AB

Curt_Dupre · « **Reply #11 on:** February 16, 2012, 06:52:58 PM »

Definitely. The 716T definitely hooks more than the 919C. I am not sure about where the Defiant will fit. It might have more hook, it might not. I would drill the 716T a little different than the Defiant just make sure they roll different for you.

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ch_flash · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2012, 12:53:05 AM »

My driller punched the 716T before league tonight.

He was going to drill it pin under(48x4x68) but I suggested going 40*x 4.75"x 40* and he did. He added a small P-2 hole(on pap) and kept it oob. He wanted it to play a little more in the oil. He got what he wanted. Was able to stay in the soup and shot 821.

What I noticed was it revved up nicely in the midlane with a strong but smooth motion to the pocket. Not a skid/snap at all.

If you didn't like that strike, just watch this one!

http://visionarybowling.com/

Edited by ch_flash on 2/22/2012 at 1:53 AM

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