Author Topic: 715a (Read 6882 times)

woodzx12 · « **on:** October 02, 2009, 11:03:05 PM »

im back with a report. i bowler on my friday night team has the 715a. he is averaging 235. i asked him how he like the ball and this was his answer. this is a third game ball when the lanes dry up. he cant get the ball to hook in the first and second game. he has a very high rev rate. but he is using the 930t and loves that ball. so once again i have 6 bowlers who own this ball and they all say this ball will not hook like it is advertized. i used the storm vertual energy and shot 741. this ball was moving 7 boards harder than the 715a. can only use the 715a in the dry. 6 out of 6 people. 6 differnt styles of bowlers. same answers. extreme hook. maybe if you are bowling in the sahara desert.

Kid Jete · « **Reply #16 on:** October 04, 2009, 05:11:35 PM »

By the way, just because you found a handful of people that agree doesn't mean there's another handful that don't.

For example...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kder2np5D14

sammy · « **Reply #17 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:43:09 PM »

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I think these guys are a bit slow, if you know what I mean. The first thing that jumps out to me is that they are bowling on a shot that requires the 930T, yet they want a ball, the 715A, that gets instant length and is super polished to hook. Last time I checked polished pearls weren't the best choice for heavy conditions. Maybe trying listening to the people that are here to help? Take them there shiny balls yall got and make em a bit duller, yeeehawww!

That was his teammate using the 930. He shot 276 with it the first game.
Woody was using his new virtual energy, polished and shot 247 the first game, 236 the 2nd game and 258 the 3rd game for a 741. His teammate switched balls and shot a 267 in the 3rd game. I forget what his 2nd game was. But he ended up with about a 780 series, give or take a pin. I guess you have never seen two bowlers on the same shot using different equipment. Did you ever think one guy might be more speed senitive. Did you ever think. Oh did i mention that woody was using his newly drilled virtual energy polished with an aggressive drilling on it. Yet the same drilling on his 715 would not react for him in the first game. But was great for him in another house in the 3rd game, on the desert. I never know it was a rule in bowling that all bowlers must use dull balls in the first game. What an idiot.

Kid Jete · « **Reply #18 on:** October 04, 2009, 07:13:01 PM »

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I think these guys are a bit slow, if you know what I mean. The first thing that jumps out to me is that they are bowling on a shot that requires the 930T, yet they want a ball, the 715A, that gets instant length and is super polished to hook. Last time I checked polished pearls weren''t the best choice for heavy conditions. Maybe trying listening to the people that are here to help? Take them there shiny balls yall got and make em a bit duller, yeeehawww!

That was his teammate using the 930. He shot 276 with it the first game.
Woody was using his new virtual energy, polished and shot 247 the first game, 236 the 2nd game and 258 the 3rd game for a 741. His teammate switched balls and shot a 267 in the 3rd game. I forget what his 2nd game was. But he ended up with about a 780 series, give or take a pin. I guess you have never seen two bowlers on the same shot using different equipment. Did you ever think one guy might be more speed senitive. Did you ever think. Oh did i mention that woody was using his newly drilled virtual energy polished with an aggressive drilling on it. Yet the same drilling on his 715 would not react for him in the first game. But was great for him in another house in the 3rd game, on the desert. I never know it was a rule in bowling that all bowlers must use dull balls in the first game. What an idiot.

Probably because the VE is a hybrid and starts up earlier than the 715. Did you ever run that through your head? Taking the surface down on the 715 would get it to start up earlier and probably would see more of a reaction out of it, although if "woody" says your other pal with the big rev rate is using a 930 I am still guessing there''s too much oil for the 715 at the start. But whatever floats your boat buddy boy. People try to give you suggestions, which I''m assuming you came here for, and you keep making excuses. If you came to just b*tch and moan, then yes, I think you have accomplished that. So you can leave now and go blow your buddy woodrow.

Oh and I don''t think everyone throws dull equipment in the first game, where exactly did I say that? I''m just pointing out what the suggestions were to improve the look you douchebags are getting with the 715. Not to mention you keep talking about you and your buddy posting negative reviews. Well chief, this isn''t the review section, it''s the discussion section, hence all the responses back.

Edited on 10/4/2009 7:17 PM

no300tj · « **Reply #19 on:** October 04, 2009, 07:15:34 PM »

I'm not going to get into all the stuff above me here. However, I looked at the drill sheet to see the layout, and a ball drilled like that for me is never going to be angular. Also, being a pearl, unless the pattern is very open it'll never turn the corner for me. Don't know if this helps, just an observation.
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Joe Jr · « **Reply #20 on:** October 04, 2009, 07:20:01 PM »

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It's pretty amazing how some jerkoff's act around here. Guined you have nothing to apologize about, you were just trying to help, and there is no reason for these 2 morons to jump down your throat like this. Some people just like to fight and to cut down others and it's pathetic.
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Nice moouth on this guy, he is what they call an internet big mouth. Boy someone post a negative review and it gets deleted. Yet this guy with the big mouth can come on and call people names and nothing gets deleted. You guys are a joke.

Yea man it was the mods that deleted his post, that's what it was. The guy comes on here posts stuff like this, then for some stupid reason gets his feelings hurt when some people just try and help and deletes his own damn posts.
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Kid Jete · « **Reply #21 on:** October 04, 2009, 07:22:45 PM »

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I'm not going to get into all the stuff above me here. However, I looked at the drill sheet to see the layout, and a ball drilled like that for me is never going to be angular. Also, being a pearl, unless the pattern is very open it'll never turn the corner for me. Don't know if this helps, just an observation.
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I have a feeling they just drill balls the way the picture looks and have no idea what the pin to pap and pin to val is.

Joe Jr · « **Reply #22 on:** October 04, 2009, 07:27:00 PM »

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I'm not going to get into all the stuff above me here. However, I looked at the drill sheet to see the layout, and a ball drilled like that for me is never going to be angular. Also, being a pearl, unless the pattern is very open it'll never turn the corner for me. Don't know if this helps, just an observation.
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whoever said size doesn't matter never had trouble with a thumbhole

I have a feeling they just drill balls the way the picture looks and have no idea what the pin to pap and pin to val is.

Some people are just clueless, but still think they know more then everyone else. These people aren't worth the effort.
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Kid Jete · « **Reply #23 on:** October 04, 2009, 07:28:45 PM »

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I'm not going to get into all the stuff above me here. However, I looked at the drill sheet to see the layout, and a ball drilled like that for me is never going to be angular. Also, being a pearl, unless the pattern is very open it'll never turn the corner for me. Don't know if this helps, just an observation.
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whoever said size doesn't matter never had trouble with a thumbhole

I have a feeling they just drill balls the way the picture looks and have no idea what the pin to pap and pin to val is.

Some people are just clueless, but still think they know more then everyone else. These people aren't worth the effort.
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Just another hack with too much equipment.

It DOES start to feel like effort after a while, doesn't it? LOL!

Kid Jete · « **Reply #24 on:** October 04, 2009, 09:09:02 PM »

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kid joe and big mouth, Who said anything about drilling balls. He said he had it drilled that way. You track followers think you are the only ones that know how to drill. And do any of you drill, or do you just come on and run off at the mouth. And he did not delete his post. More then likely it was deleted because it was negative. People on this site talk about the fools at lane 1. Your track followers are right up ther with them. you guys act like you know it all, then you twist things around. Bottom line, the ball is weak and it is not angular. Now make up all the excuses you want. Do any of you even have the ball. Or did you all sell them too. After all it was the best pearl ever.
What a joke you are. There have been post saying that the ball is smooth. Yet the three stooges here have spoken. and now no ones opinion matters, just theirs. Well I'll say one thing about you guys, your all good for a laugh, nothing more. Best one was, help from a track staffer. Yep, just what i would want, help from someone who 2 years ago was telling people how to drill the Rising. I would not ask any of you what day follows saturday and comes before momday. Cause your all a joke. Look at the picture. Ya you mean the one with the cg above and right of the fingers and the mb about 9 inches away from the pin. Is that the picture you speak of. If the mb is 3" from the val in that pic, then the pin is about 9" away. Ya, i would want that copied. Of course I doubt that the three stooges have even seen the drill sheet. Cause their all a joke. Ya accurate pic, a joke thats what you all are.

/search "joke"...

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suggestion... get new material.

nextbowler · « **Reply #25 on:** October 04, 2009, 09:53:02 PM »

Just for the record, I have a 715A and live in Vegas. It seems to me that
the lanes here are relatively dry--maybe because of the low humidity or heat?
For me the ball is very angular and turns as soom as it hits the dry. Pin is
above the ring finger. I am not disappointed in the ball. I have a 505c
also that is more arcy and is not as continuous as the 715. I plan on getting
the 930 when funds permit. I am not a Track staffer, I just liked their products at a demo day.

LaneHammer20 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 04, 2009, 10:17:34 PM »

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I think these guys are a bit slow, if you know what I mean. The first thing that jumps out to me is that they are bowling on a shot that requires the 930T, yet they want a ball, the 715A, that gets instant length and is super polished to hook. Last time I checked polished pearls weren't the best choice for heavy conditions. Maybe trying listening to the people that are here to help? Take them there shiny balls yall got and make em a bit duller, yeeehawww!

Great point. Its like me trying to use my Break pearl drlled strong on a condition that is meant for my S-75 or Solaris Requiem, it will look like a turd, and maybe even look like one the last game as well, since the concentration of oil is so high even by the end of the night. It has happned to me many times before
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golfnutFL · « **Reply #27 on:** October 05, 2009, 01:33:08 AM »

The 505A will make all of y'all forget about the 715A. It is what the 715 was supposed to be. (Still not a first game ball w/o high revs)

SleepOnIce · « **Reply #28 on:** October 05, 2009, 08:32:40 AM »

sammy's posts read like a jls post but in paragraphs, and never funny.
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Xcessive_Evil · « **Reply #29 on:** October 05, 2009, 10:22:06 AM »

Just mindblowing. The 930T and the Virtual Energy hooks more that the 715A. Holy news flash....

Why are you comparing those two to a 715A in the first place? You might as well make a post crying about how a Roto Neptune can't hook 40 boards, but your buddy that has a Cell can...

I don't recall anyone saying the 715 is the all-out hook monster. It is a medium lane condition ball(in terms of length and/or volume) at best. I've tried a 715A, using the same layout that is on my 2nd Virtual Energy (60* 4.5" 25*). It allowed me to play not only tighter, but further right and it worked quite well. I'm also high-rev, decent speed, and average over 220.

"Extreme hook" as you so eloquently put it, isn't always the answer-all. but then again, someone at your level should "know that"...
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230-n-up-or-bust · « **Reply #30 on:** October 05, 2009, 10:31:27 AM »

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