The champ was no where near the skid/flip of the contender...it had an early roll, and a smooth arc. I got rid of both of mine, because i'd hit the pocket all day, and not carry the ten with them. I wouldn't of even drilled up a second, but i paid the proshop guy for a spirt, he took my money, ordered it (he says) then closed his shop and moved 2 days later. So all he had worth taking from his shop was the champ. Good ball if you could get it cheap, i'd compare it to a more board covering, higher rg, not as good hitting crunch.