Well i own a big one and most newer releases the machine is lack luster too at best so far. It is only 3 games on fairly medium/heavy oil but i got a good fell for it right away. Ball is drilled pin over ring and mb just right of thumb about an inch or so. For me the pin is 4 1/2 to pap mb about 4 3/4 mb to pap no weight hole ball was box finish when i tried it.It was lazy arcing motion and really did nothing special hit wise, you trackers can bash me but if you know me you know i buy all brands and never lie about what happens when i use a ball.
I did also get a arsenal artillery on the same day and it hooks circles around the machine hands down, trust me the lane man was oiling when i throwing the firs couple of frames on the wore out pattern. The machine went almost dead straight burning up and could not make the turn with the carrydown from the previous days play on the pair. He then ran my lanes and behold the ball started to look better but a very lazy arcing ball nothing special compared too the artillery which honestly made the machine look stupid hook wise.
The artillery is drilled pin under finger and cg stacked pin to pap 4 1/2 and cg to pap 4 1/2 box finish which is polished. The artillery revs up hard and never stops coming through the pin deck, i liked this ball from the first roll with and used it in the middle of game 2 in my league. The artillery hits like well a tank or artillery round and is a winner in my book already.
I started league that using the big one so i can tell you there was enough oil, so telling me different you are wasting your time i know what i am looking at. When the lanes started opening up some and the big one was starting to hook too much i made a change to the artillery and was back to my original line. So in box it is less ball than the big one no surprise there and the machine would not even be in the same league oil handling wise imo which is my opinion only here.
Remember i buy all my balls i get nothing free i am here to only help people think about there money. I will tell you how it is and what i really think about what i own and i will not post about balls i dont. There are people make judgements on what they think a ball will do and in pm's have admitted to me when i have caught them they dont own the ball they posted about.
Heres the final scoop from me too all of you for now, i have came home hit the machine with 1000 abralon and hit the ball with brunswick rough buff hard on a spinner on high speed and lots of pressure. I will rolling it twice in practice over this weekend and will re post new thoughts good or bad by monday.
For now i can tell you i hated the delta 1 ball and love the artillery which is the same cover different weaker core. The artillery for me in box matches up well, the machine so far in only 3 games is lack luster at best. It is quite a bit waeker than a robo rule which i also own with almost same drilling but did not throw so making a direct comparision would not be fair. I will also have robo rule which i had to polish with me next set and we will see what happens head up with these balls.
