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hotshot187

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WMB VS GP2
« on: March 31, 2005, 04:25:31 AM »
Hey guys i'm kind of debating which one I should get.  Currently I am using my Aggresive for the med 2 heavy lane conditions and my Angular for medium and really don't have a true heavy oil ball.  I know both of these balls are capable of handling heavy oil, but the GP2 I know could probably handle a bit more.  Where I am I really don't see HEAVY, HEAVY so I was kinda leaning toward the WMB cause I think the GP2 might be a bit overkill. I also heard with the WMB I would have to probably play a tighter line in oil which is something i really dont want to do. I want a swinging out type of ball.  Have u heard this? What u guys think?


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BowlerKidR

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2005, 03:20:59 PM »
all i can say is that the WMB needs lots of caring. The cover stock sucks up lots of oil and needs to be cleaned like after every game (jk). Its a pain in the BUTT to have to deal with this so maybe get a GP2 and put a weaker drilling in it.
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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2005, 03:34:30 PM »
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It may seem that way to you, but it doesn't seem that way to me. If you want to talk about people that are biased, go to the Brunswick form and listen to all of the talk about the Brunswick balls, Brunswick Nation, and etc. As for myself, I only own one Track ball, one Storm, and two Brunswicks, so I don't "crow" Track is best, but I do support a Track ball if I see the Track ball as the better ball when comparing balls such as this case.
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I guess we are entitled to a difference of opinion on the gp2 versus wmb argument. I think the gp2 is better for extreme oil cases, the wmb more for medium-light to medium heavy. This is just what I have seen out of the balls.

I wasn't referring to you as to the biased track member, more excalibur, clintdaley, and tenpinspro. They will always support track products in all cases.

Maybe I just haven't seen enough polished gp2's and gp2's with angular enough drillings to say that it can be used on a more medium pattern, I have only seen gp2's in box condition.

I agree, the brunswick people are rediculous, and I try not to visit that forum.
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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2005, 06:15:28 PM »
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I wasn't referring to you as to the biased track member, more excalibur, clintdaley, and tenpinspro. They will always support track products in all cases.

 


Stan, you are correct there and the reason is that they are Track Reps, so they stand by their company. I would and I'm sure you would also stand by the company that is sponsering you, just like BrunsRicH and Brunsbob. They both work for Brunswick, so they stand by Brunswick. (That's how I ended up with an Impulse Zone that doesn't do the job for me...lol)

I have talked to both tenspinpro and EXCALIBER a number of times about other companies balls (especially Storm) and what they think of those balls, how to drill them, and they have been really supportive to me on my questions and have never tried to get me to switch to Track. Now, on the GP2, I read a lot of peoples comments about this ball and I went to them. They didn't come to me trying to get me to buy a GP2. They told me all about this ball, the pros, the cons, how to drill it, and etc. and they were correct all the way.

I think the whole thing regardless of company, is match up. Lane 1, Brunswick, and Columbia don't match up well to me at all, whereas, Storm, Ebonite's V2 line, Track, and the AMF old Evolution line all match up to me well.


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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2005, 08:03:06 PM »
I would like to thank Excalibur, tenpinspro, clintdaley and achappy, as well as any other Track enthusiasts on this forum.  What I have liked about ballreviews.com is that is has been an open forum for all brands since its inception.  It is an open forum for all those players that are looking for information on bowling ball products and how they apply to their individual game, good or bad.  What I do believe is that this is the best forum on the site for anyone looking for information on a company's products and how to get it drilled for their individual style.  As mentioned earlier, the members here will help you regardless of your alliance.  Bottom line, Track believes that making people satisfied with their purchase and educating them on any technical aspects of ball drilling as they relate to the player's style transcends the actual purchase of a particular brand of bowling ball.  The bottom line is that each purchase is satisfactory, regardless of manufacturer.  Having the support team that we have here at the Track forum adds value to our products, but will also help you gather the necessary technical assistance to make sure that you are happy with any ball purchase.
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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2005, 08:24:11 PM »
A round of applause for Brian!!!!
Well said!
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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2005, 08:55:55 PM »
I'm with Brian all the way on what he said. That is the meaning behind what I posted, but he said it much more simpier, clearer and understandable than I did. Thanks Brian and as MC said, a round of applause for Brian and well said.

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2005, 11:17:19 PM »
I have to chime in on this a bit. I was not exagerating the improved scores for my buddy. He has liked MoRich stuff for the past couple of years, so he wanted a WMB. I drilled it up for him. He had moderate success with it. In our one league which is a one of the more difficult houses in our area he was averaging 185 for the midseason average report. He decided while struggling one night he wanted to try my GP2, he used it for 3 weeks during that league. Finally he had me drill one up for him. After using a GP2 (drilled nearly identical to his GP2) for about 2 1/2 months he has his average up to 193 I believe. An average swing that high this late in year is pretty good. So with the success he had with the GP2, he decided he wanted the Xception, his first real night out in league with that ball he shot 300.

I am not saying that throwing Track is going to give you better scores vs another piece of equipment for sure......I said "His scores immediately went up". And his scores have gone up. I sure wish I could get him to actually get a username and speak up on this subject. He reads these forums daily. SO SMITTY, log on and speak your piece.

I also want to comment on the being bias quote. I really like Track's equipment, but read through my reviews (there are many of them on this site), I am honest about the reaction I get out of any ball I have thrown. I do not make things up. My suggestion of the GP2 over the WMB is simply because I have seen it outperform the WMB many times over by many different styles of bowlers.

Another thing I want to comment on is the coverstock issue with the WMB. SORRY, but there are coverstock issues. Throw the ball awhile and you will notice the coverstock changes color. Coverstocks do not do this for no good reason, something is going on there. Every person that has purchased this ball from me, or uses it in my center asks me why the track area turns dark grey to nearly black after use----and then loses reaction. Others have asked me why the ball tracks up so quickly.

I can take criticism. When it comes to me suggesting a ball to a bowler I suggest the ball that I honestly feel is better----if that ball is a Track ball, great, if it isn't atleast I am giving my honest, unbiased opinion.

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2005, 11:43:32 AM »
I cannot believe that I got Todd to register. I have been trying to get him to do so for atleast a year. Must be a slow day at work huh?

Todd is the secretary of the league we are speaking of, maybe he is just rigging the numbers?




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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2005, 10:50:36 PM »
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