Hi Trackers!

I am going to drill my Machine I have been sitting here in my closet for around 11 months. Having asked this "what drilling" question some time ago I will now ask again just to see if there are more oppinions out there.

The problem is... all my equipment was drilled by "rough estimations on comparison with former balls"... or as I call it "trial and error" as the local drillers won'T drill by PAP but just by setting the pin and wishing good luck.

My actual PAP I don't know yet adn my revs I dunno, too.

My Tsunami and H2O I will measure than and compared to the strenght of the Machine with the Tsunami (Machine is a tad stronger yet as smooth) layout the machine.

I will use the dual angle layout system and do all the work myself just to make sure I get the result I want.

My question now is:
What layout will work for a med speed med rev player (maybe even lower haven't measured) on a THS/ league patter.

Don't get my wrong I have a good arsenal but want the Machine to go a tad stronger and also more backend than my Tsunami.

My actual layout ideas are (in this format: Pin-PAP;Drilling Angle; Pin-PAP-VAL angle):

Long and strong: 4.5";75°;50°
more midlane and stronger: 3-4"; 50°;50°

Or should I just take my Tsunami... put the pin a tad higher and the MB a bit more right.

Pciture of my Tsunami I use now
Tsunami: http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/59/5585759/400_6431336631666164.jpg
- goes long with nice Midlane and has some pop in the backend

My H2O is drille with a tad higher pin and a tad shoert Pin/PAP and the MB is position also more right to create more backend and does exactly this:
goes a tad longer on a fresh pattern than my Tsunami with a bang on the backend.
On use lanes the ball skids not that much but shows a more arc reaction with still pop - this what I wanted.

My Tsunami is too waek imho right now on the backend - I want the machine to get the same midlane read with more pop on the backend to be use on more oil than my Tsunami

Thanks for any oppinion

and right; I am using Lane#1 right now but I had track balls - my former driller all messed up. Do I dumped then when I got my Tsunami. The best ball can't work with lousy layouts and missdrilled spans.. I have a new driller now but this one also drills not by PAP. (Germany... bowling in the "dark middle ages" )
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"Have fun and bowl well!" - Grayson
"Some things are made so even idiots won't fail using them.... But I aks what about the genius?" - Grayson

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Edited on 12/2/2007 11:02 AM

Edited on 12/2/2007 11:04 AM

Well, I think you need to re-think of getting your equipment drilled wherever it is that's doing it now.  If a ball driller will not go by your PAP, it sounds to me they are not knowledgeable.  PAP is HUGE when it comes to drilling equipment.  If you don't know your PAP, I'm assuming it's due to the ball driller not wanting to see where it is?  The shape of your reaction is predicted by drilling based off your PAP.  A good ball driller is going to use this as a starting point when they layout a ball.   Run as fast as you can from this "local driller".

So, laying out your own equipment is going to be your only option?  Take this in stride as I am not bashing you in no way shape or form.  I'm assuming you then know how to find your PAP?  If not, just give a shout out.  I'm assuming you have the tools to be able to lay the ball out and just give your ball driller the ball to drill where you place your markings.  Then comes the factor of "where do I place the balance hole" to either make it legal or possibly make it flare more or less.  I'm assuming you either know how to do this or will also learn.  There is more that meets the eye with drilling or laying out a ball.  This goes back to the knowledge of being in the pro shop business.

damn... got no slot for the drilling today ( to much work in the proshop)

Will have the ball drilled next Wednesday.

Still I am not sure.

I will preferably go with a 4_1/4" 70° 50° layout ( lets see where the pin ends and the MB compared to my older balls then )
Will put the weight hole on the VAL with the ending static weights to be 0.5oz finger and 0.5 sideweight(pos)
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"Have fun and bowl well!" - Grayson
"Some things are made so even idiots won't fail using them.... But I aks what about the genius?" - Grayson

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Edited on 12/4/2007 2:56 PM