Okay guys, now that I see there are still some around who would like to discuss bowling in general and/or improve, let's get this going.  

I'd like to discuss the following:

1) type of shot you've been on or encountering...
2) ball/layout and cover you've been using...
3) are you satisfied with your current scores/results?

I'm bowling 2 leagues this year where I'm seeing a tremendous amount of over/under aka wet/dry or blk and wht condition.  This shot plays much tougher to tweeners who are rev dominant as a cranker can get dead left and hit the dry 48+ feet down lane to break into the pocket and the stroker doesn't get too much of a violent reaction from the friction due to their lower rev rate.

I've been using 2 balls,  1)old Exception 5.0 (6x4mb, pin 1 7/8 above mid line with the pin under middle finger, ball is 4k high polish). 2) an old D2Z (2x1cg, pin and cg is on val 3.25 above mid line, ball is also 4k polish) I came up with this as a variation of the Leong-Hall layout which was also designed for playing wet/dry conditions.  This layout actually works very well on this.

I've been scoring much higher then usual on this shot compared to past years as I've learned to go much straighter with a broken wrist release instead of trying to circle the ball and cover the entire lane.

I'm interested in hearing how you guys handle this condition, thanks.


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Rick Leong - Ten Pins Pro Shop
Tag Team Coaching - Co-Founder
"El" Presidente of the Legion



Edited on 10/28/2008 1:41 PM

Ogre solid 4 1/4 x 4 pin down at 1k abralon no polish is one of the balls i use for this type of shot, the low diff and solid cover make control much easier. Also a slightly shined on box Cell with a 4 inch pin with mb in the 80 degree area, i throw at 18 or so mph so my speed is slightly dominant over my rev rate.

The Cell usually last 12-14 frames before the heads blow out from too many righties, so then a old Hotwire or something with a mild cover and core is the right choice.

Btw nice to see you back hope it is a full time thing, you are truly a nice guy unlike me hahaha

This is my third straight year in a mixed league and the pattern is a normal THS (about 39ft.) but this year with very clean backends. Last year there was just too much carrydown from the league the night before everyone struggled the first several months. This year the pattern has been very good to the strokers and alot more high scores so far but it does seem abit shorter in length but that could be just me.

My current ball has been the Power Machine at 4000 abralon with polished. Pin is 5 1/2" from PAP (pin above bridge) and MB next to thumbhole.

As far as scores, I've been very satisfied with my games. Though I tend to struggle with the PM on the first game the ball is abit squirty on fresh oil. But I do come back very strong on the other two once I start playing the 15 and 18 board to 6 once the lanes open up. I tried something different the past two series and used the Power Machine without switching balls all games and shot 697 and 752 (290 in the second game with 11 strikes in a row).

The PBA Experience league I did over the summer did help me alot with adjusting to lane change and being more consistent and disciplined with my accuracy. I'm almost 10 pins over my average from last year so it's done alot of good. I hope to have my Kinetic Energy possibly tomorrow to use it for the first time for league tomorrow night.

Thanks for the feedback...hmmm, interesting.  It seems most prefer to play the line vs the friction.  My only problem with that shot is if I tug it too much, the ball will deflect and ping a corner pin.

I started to take the other approach (move outside) which is how I get whacked out here by bowlers who can pipe the dry "and" have the carry.  

X, what's going on bro?

Mr bowlingnut, pm sent.
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Oh, one more thought...I chose a 12-13 yr old ball (D2Z = Danger Zone 2) because each ball is made/produced to handle the oil thickness of its time so oil densities were not as thick back then as they are today.  

Just a thought for you guys that if you want a weaker ball these days to handle drier conditions, you can possibly look at older pieces as their design and covers are not necessarily as strong as balls produced today.
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Rick Leong - Ten Pins Pro Shop
Tag Team Coaching - Co-Founder
"El" Presidente of the Legion



Edited on 10/29/2008 6:06 PM

Rick,

The shot on our lanes this year are a little different then last year.  They are still a normal house shot type with dry on the outside.  But the interior is oiled heavier than in the past.  So if I hit the dry with my Rising, it comes back alot and almost brooklyn during practice, so I have to stay in the middle a bit more, but the Rising still bites with the oil.  I am still getting used to my Uprising (both rising and up are drilled with number 1 drilling) it gives me more length, but does not handle the oil as well, it needs dry.  Im still experimenting but it is coming along.  The PBA Ex league this summer has helped, and I look forward to bowling better in Vegas in May.

E