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cd

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Ball decision
« on: October 10, 2005, 04:05:03 AM »
I am in the process of building my Track arsenal.  So far I have the Arsenal Reactive (AR) and original Exception.  The AR works very well on med/heavy conditions, and I am using my Exception on med/light conditions.

I am about to get the Desert Heat for drier conditions, as I have seen a need for that, on occasion.  By the way, I am bowling on house conditions in leagues and on assorted patterns in tournaments (PBA, sport, etc.)

I was thinking about adding the Rule Delta 1, for heavy conditions, but so far I have not seen a need for a stronger ball than the AR.  I am sure I may encounter heavier conditions, at some point, in a tournament, and wish I had the Rule Delta 1.  Do you think it is worth getting the Rule Delta 1, to use as a stronger ball than the AR?  They have about the same specs, as far as hooking ratings, on the Track web site.

Would it be better for me to consider another ball, to go between the AR and Exception, such as the Slash?

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Re: Ball decision
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2005, 12:14:59 PM »
CD,

I would probably start with getting a Slash. You NEED a benchmark ball and something to read the lanes with. The Slash will fit that slot. While the Delta 1 is a great ball, your AR could handle most of the oil you may see for now. Once you have a Slash, look into something stronger than the AR.
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Re: Ball decision
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2005, 12:26:39 PM »
Thanks for the reply.

What traits designate a ball as a good benchmark ball?  Could the AR serve that purpose as well?

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Re: Ball decision
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2005, 12:26:55 PM »
While a benchmark ball is a great suggestion, I also see the need for a true heavy oil ball if you go to tourneys and are bowling on PBA conditions. Something like the Arsneal Aggressive/Blue Heat, or GP2 would do the trick.

The problem I see with the Delta and Arsenal Reactive is for ME, they are pretty close, close enough that if I had to chose X amount of balls to go somewhere, I would more than likely not take both. But that is my opinion only and I take everything when I go somewhere, just trying to go over all of your options.

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Re: Ball decision
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2005, 12:37:46 PM »
Clint,

How much could drilling play into this decision?  My AR is drilled with the pin above my bridge.  It is drilled to go longer, in the first place.

Would a Rule Delta 1, drilled with the pin below the ring finger, be different enough?  In my mind, if the Delta rolls early and has backend, as I have heard, then it may be something to consider.

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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2005, 02:01:36 PM »
A benchmak ball, to me, is a ball that is very even racting throughout the lane, and is not the biggest hooking ball nor the least. The ball will give you a read on what the lanes are giving you and how you should adjust if necessary.

The problem with the Arsenal Reactive as a benchmark is the low Rg...it leaves it open to rolling early if the heads go away a little bit, where as something like the Slash/Havoc is able to scoot through that part of the lane longer without overreacting.

As for a drill, anything extreme is not good (rolls extremely late/early) and will not give you a true read on the lane. I like a label drill on my bench so the ball does nothing fancy.

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Re: Ball decision
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2005, 08:51:48 PM »
Yep, read his post....unfortunately, although I do see a difference in mine, they are VERY close to each other for me.

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Re: Ball decision
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2005, 12:31:42 PM »
cd,

I would add the Slash or even the Solution PP. Either of those balls will fit closely to the Xception, but react much differently. If you don't need a ball to be stronger than the Arsenal Reactive right now then don't get a stronger ball.

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Re: Ball decision
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2005, 03:57:03 PM »
I don't feel you need the delta 1 because you have the reactive.  The reactive is plenty strong and can cover heavy oil with ease.  This is what I would suggest based on the info you have giving.

MED TO HEAVY: ARSENAL REACTIVE
MED TO LIGHT: XCEPTION
LIGHT TO DRY: DESERT HEAT

I would also add just one more ball to this arsenal for tough patterns.  I would choose a med oil ball.  The arsenal angular or the slash are great choices.  I have both.  I personally have had better success on tough patterns with my angular but the slash is good also.  So this is what your all track arsenal would look like.

ARSENAL REACTIVE
ARSENAL ANGULAR
XCEPTION
DEESERT HEAT

To me this looks like an awesome arsenal.  The desert can also be used for a spare ball.
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Re: Ball decision
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2005, 04:17:37 PM »
Hey cd,

Hard to say on the Delta unless you plan to keep it as a tournament ball.  I have my Delta at 4.25x4mb and my Arsenal Reactive at 6x4 7/8.  Theses two balls are about 10 boards apart!  When I feel a little better, I'll make some vids of the 2 side by side.

Currently my 3 league balls are the Reactive, Xception and Desert (chitown's choices) but I just started to fit in the Solution EX where it can handle just a touch more oil than the Desert but less then the Xception.  I'm currently also experiencing more dry then oil in both my 9:00 leagues.  Hope this helps some...
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