Post by: FastTracker33 on August 10, 2006, 06:50:43 AM
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Post by: FastTracker33 on August 10, 2006, 03:11:04 PM
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on August 10, 2006, 03:19:32 PM
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so what's she drilled to do?....
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/HPIM0685.jpg
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Post by: Re-Evolution on August 10, 2006, 03:23:20 PM
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Post by: FastTracker33 on August 10, 2006, 03:27:19 PM
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Post by: Re-Evolution on August 10, 2006, 03:35:36 PM
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it's not supposed to roll early and arc
that's what ASB-Joe told me it would do
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Maybe it depends on your style but it would be quite strong in the backend for me.
The pin is above and at a quite strong distance from PAP and the MB is in the strong position which usually equates to an angular break point. When you consider the balls characteristics of being pretty strong in the backend already and you place the pin up and MB strong it isn't going to get less angular if used on the condition it is designed for.
Can you give some details about your game it may change my opinion.
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Post by: SlowHand on August 10, 2006, 03:36:19 PM
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Post by: Re-Evolution on August 10, 2006, 03:42:26 PM
If so it looks more like about a 5 x 3 to me instead of 4 x 2.
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Post by: FastTracker33 on August 10, 2006, 03:45:00 PM
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Didn't you say that you PAP was over 5 and up 1/4 in another post.
If so it looks more like about a 5 x 3 to me instead of 4 x 2.
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no i didn't get it drilled 4 x 2, on this ball, i was just wondering how that would work..
anyways it's supposed to be drilled 4.5 x 4mb
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Post by: tenpinspro on August 10, 2006, 04:01:53 PM
Like I mentioned before, with your vertical movement of only a 1/4, this ball will still roll pretty strong in the mid lane for you (as it natuarally is designed to). It just has a little more length then we wanted originally. Don't forget that we can still alter the cover some as it comes pretty smooth OOB. It should still handle med/med to med/heavy for you. Keep me posted and I'll walk you thru the cover adjustment as needed but I think you'll still like this. The Mean Machine is a pretty strong ball....
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Post by: FastTracker33 on August 10, 2006, 04:13:43 PM
is there a reason why he didn't drill it like this? (i think he told me why but i forget, and i can't get in contact with him)--------------------
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Post by: tenpinspro on August 10, 2006, 04:17:08 PM
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Post by: Re-Evolution on August 10, 2006, 04:18:12 PM
Without knowing your span to estimate the pin and MB locations or the coordinates of the pin and MB based off of grip center none of us can say for sure what it is.
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Post by: axeweldr on August 10, 2006, 04:22:01 PM
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Post by: tenpinspro on August 10, 2006, 04:26:45 PM
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It may be 4.5 x 4
You're right Sean but he did say that the 4.5 would have hit the pin so he didn't want to do that per Brian's original message to me. I think it's just a touch more but I would have preferred it to be a touch less then 4.5 and squeeze it under the ring for what Brian described he wanted.
Guys, when I suggest a layout, it doesn't have to be dead on. It is a guideline that will offer a specific reaction but please consult with your driller to help you do what's best for you. This is the another small problem with on-line drilling....
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Post by: Re-Evolution on August 10, 2006, 04:34:42 PM
I have to agree, given what he described above about being early with an arc.
I am sure it will still be great ball for him though. I was actually thinking that it may be more of a hook set type of reaction which can be very handy on tough shots IMHO. Would you agree?
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Post by: tenpinspro on August 10, 2006, 04:45:34 PM
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I was actually thinking that it may be more of a hook set type of reaction which can be very handy on tough shots IMHO. Would you agree?
I don't know Sean. According to Brian's stats, he has pretty high speed with power tweener revs so this may actually look pretty good for him. Not sure how he matches up exactly in speed to rev ratio. Guess we'll have to wait and see...
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Post by: FastTracker33 on August 10, 2006, 04:59:52 PM
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It may be 4.5 x 4
Without knowing your span to estimate the pin and MB locations or the coordinates of the pin and MB based off of grip center none of us can say for sure what it is.
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This ball also has a pretty deep weight hole, my ring finger can go all the way down it, lol
The span is 4 1/2 to the ring and 4 11/16 to the middle.. hope this helps some because right now im dying, i'm afraid of how it's going to react..
But ASB-Joe said to me if i don't like the reaction (since he drilled it a little different) i can send it back and he'll drill another, but i really dont want to do that to him that's mean
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Post by: FastTracker33 on August 10, 2006, 05:42:01 PM
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Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on August 10, 2006, 09:00:24 PM
I have my Mean drilled very similiar to that.
Not sure if your style...I read your profile. I fall in the higher end of tweener...my revrate is about 375 and my ball speed is 16.5 down the lane.
It is a med/heavy ball OOB....It is not quite enough to handle a flood. Adjust the surface......it will work on oil very well. If you want it as your Heavy oil ball I would go straight to 1000grit before I even try the ball. Try it at 1000 and see if that makes it hook enough.
I do agree that pin under like Rick suggested would have been a much better layout though.
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Post by: FastTracker33 on August 10, 2006, 10:55:58 PM
Pattern Used on: Fresh just laid out 10x10 Pattern with oil all in the middle of the lane and dry outside about the 10 board
Layout used: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/HPIM0685.jpg
Reaction: First off i would like to thank Track for this awesome ball it hits like a TANK! Now the reaction... This ball really revs up nice but Doesn't set-up early. It sets up at about 45-50 feet down the lane, and comes back VERY HARD, kinda like a hook/set reaction. This ball is not very smooth at all, it's very angular (maybe the ball plan old can't be smooth, i dont know
). I really wanted to see a smoother reaction, more smoother arc?, i was kind of dissapointed 
I'm gonna see if i can contact BeansProShop (my driller), and ASB-Joe, and see what i can do. I'll update when i get more info
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Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on August 10, 2006, 11:02:07 PM
Try adjusting the surface bud. That will tame down the breakpoint and smoothen the reaction a bit. Try the 1000grit I suggested earlier and see if it helps.
Goodluck,
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Post by: allstarbowling-Joe on August 10, 2006, 11:32:00 PM
Just so everyone knows I didnt drill it that low or else it would have
went thru the pin and I never drill out the pin or touch it unless specifically
directed to and the customer realizes the possible warranty issues. Had
I gone lower with the pin (below ring) I felt it would have been too hard
to remove enough thumb weight.
I suggest starting the surface at 1000 grit and working with that to start.
Thanks,
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Post by: SnoopyCanBowl on August 11, 2006, 02:04:41 AM
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Post by: FastTracker33 on August 12, 2006, 01:04:55 AM
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WOW! You are scaring me now brian!!! I got my from Joe too and it suppose to be 5 x 3 3/4, 1/2 in above ring. I think my slower speed(13-14 mph) will give it a smoother arc, I hope. I will recieve my somewhere next week.
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