Author Topic: Considering a 5.0--First New Ball in 3 Yrs. (Read 570 times)

Carolina Kingpin · « **on:** November 03, 2005, 12:57:19 AM »

Hello,
I'm a stroker with a high track, medium revs and medium-low speed. I usually swing the ball some on the typical league shot--maybe stand 25, 12 at the arrows, out to 7.

I spent quite a bit of time (and money) a few years back figuring out which bowling balls work best for me, and generally found myself gravitating to symmetric cores with medium to low RG's and medium differentials. I also tend to solid reactives, pearl particles, or strong (low RG, high diff.) pearls. I don't particularly care for the skid-flip type of reaction, but I can use a ball with a strong backend.

I currently use a Lane #1 Blueberry (4x5, label drill) most of the time in league, with an appearance of my Visionary Crimson Executioner (4x4) occassionally, when the backend is good enough and I need to play an inside line. I've also used a Storm Tour Power, Lane #1 Pearl Carbide, and Dynothane Pearl Elixir with success.

Recently, I've noticed some claims regarding 5 second migrations to the PSA, and they've peaked my interest. From the reviews, the Exception 5.0 seems like it might work well for me, and I'm curious to see what these new asymmetric cores with fast migration times can do.

Any thoughts on how the 5.0 might fit my game, or any comparisons to other comparable balls, like the Paradigm, for example?

Thanks,
Louis

clintdaley · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2005, 09:14:07 AM »

The 5.0 uses the Fang particle and Goo LS mixed into one. The ball is very versatile, handles cover changes very well, and hits hard! However, if you have high speed and lots of oil, this ball will never turn over due to the polished pearl finish....it is at home on the mediums and even heavier side of medium....

With mass bias balls, it is very helpful to know your PAP so someone can correctly hit the reaction you want, especially with a strong mass bias ball like the 5.0.

Clint
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Carolina Kingpin · « **Reply #2 on:** November 03, 2005, 09:39:47 AM »

Clint,
Given my high track, my PAP is in the neighborhood of 5.5" over by 1.5" up. It's been a while, so I don't remember exactly. I would likely drill the ball with the MB in my track for a smooth, controllable reaction. Historically, the label drills have worked best for me. I have tried the MB in rev/strong positions, and didn't care for the reaction as much.

I primarily want a ball for when the shot breaks down and the backends get sloppy. I'd like to move inside as the shot breaks down, but I need a ball that will recover from inside when the backend is not fresh. The reviews, and the ball description, suggest that the 5.0 handles carrydown very well.

Louis

clintdaley · « **Reply #3 on:** November 03, 2005, 09:48:52 AM »

You are almost describing my favorite drill, which was pin under ring, cg palm, mass bias left of thumb in my track (#3 on drill sheets). The mass bias in that position allows for late revs which helps the ball rev up later down the lane and have more kick. Also, it lets the ball skid through the heads easier as well. However, I would also like to point out I have 3 balls in my arsenal that handles carrydown very well. The Arsenal Reactive is AWESOME on many conditions, including carrydown (my Reactive is drilled 5x5, pin 2 inches above fingers-factory surface) as long as I have some head oil, this ball is a monster on dirty backends...too much backend on clean backends. The GP2 is good for me as well on carrydown (just drilled another GP2 last week with the drilling above, pin under ring, etc) and the ball works on fresh and dirty backends. The Arsenal Aggressive is decent on dirty backends, but would be my last choice out of the three currently, but I have another Arsenal Reactive and Arsenal Aggressive coming, so maybe another drill I will see something different.

My worries for me (high track as well, high speed) is a pearl will shoot through the break on too much oil or lots of carrydown. Granted, the balls I mentioned need some head oil to work properly, but they have given me more success lately on carrydown.

Clint
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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #4 on:** November 04, 2005, 02:41:33 PM »

Carolina Kingpin,

I think the Xception 5.0 would work perfectly where you want it. It will allow you to open up the lane a bit<<<<<<<<<<<HOWEVER I wouldn't expect that out of placing the MB left of your thumb. Naturally your PAP location and any other specific info you can offer on your game would help out for a layout suggestion. Placing the MB left of thumb does not generally offer up very good recovery down lane, it is actually quite the opposite. MB left of thumb generally makes the breakpoint more of a control type reaction.

I hope this info helps, and if you have any other questions let us know.

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tenpinspro · « **Reply #5 on:** November 05, 2005, 07:59:11 AM »

quote:
I also tend to solid reactives, pearl particles, or strong (low RG, high diff.) pearls. I don't particularly care for the skid-flip type of reaction, but I can use a ball with a strong backend.

quote:
my PAP is in the neighborhood of 5.5" over by 1.5" up

Hey Louis, (sorry I missed this)

As strong as the 5.0 is on carrydown, it does have a little more of a skid/flip reaction to me in it's OOB condition. If your condition was more on the medium side after breakdown, the 5.0 can and will recover fairly easily from the inside angle.

However, if the condition is a little heavier, the Arsenal Reactive (2.45 rg, .050 diff) sounds more like a ball that would fit into your game based on your mentioning of being a stroker and having a vertical movement of 1.5 on your pap. It is a dull reactive that is pretty aggressive and still offers a strong arc on the backend.

The 5.0 is more angular compared to the Reactive but must have dry boards to recover from or it can skid past the breakpoint. Depending upon your condition, either ball can fit this situation. I have videos of the Reactive in my profile and in my review. Feel free to review them and ask any questions if you need further assistance.
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Carolina Kingpin · « **Reply #6 on:** November 07, 2005, 08:05:34 AM »

Thanks for the replies.

Carl,
I have considered that very issue, and I may stack the MB under the pin, just to the right of my thumbhole. My Executioner is drilled 4x4 and I get a good angle from it when the backend is fresher.

Rick,
The condition is definitely a medium THS. It tends to the light side of medium, if anything, but I don't think the lane guy strips the backends half the time. I wouldn't really consider a pearl like the 5.0 in its OOB condition (even with the particles) if the oil was heavier. I am considering the Arsenal Reactive, along with the 5.0. Icetink's video also makes me wonder about the Delta Rule.

Louis

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #7 on:** November 09, 2005, 07:24:55 PM »

Louis,

I think at the very least stacking the MB under the pin would more safe. Left of thumb is good when you want a particular reaction, other than that place the MB in the position that is going to give you your desired reaction.

If you have any other questions or concerns let us know,
Carl
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