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Iketown300

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Crunch time drilling?
« on: July 29, 2004, 10:46:14 PM »
What's a good drill pattern for the crunch time for med/light conditions?


My PAP is 4 3/4 right and 1/4 up. Medium rev rate and medium speed. Axis rotation about 45-55 degrees.

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Round Balls

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2004, 02:02:53 PM »
Well if you ask what is good for the type of lane or shot better than just how is drill best. All pattern is good one someone or some conditions.
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Iketown300

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2004, 03:23:45 PM »
what if i put the pin exactly between the 2 fingers and either put the mb at 105 or put it in the strong flip position?  Any comments?
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Rock77

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2004, 04:55:53 PM »
Well, keep in mind the CT is a very strong ball. Stronger than most people think. If you are going to try to drill it for med/light, put the pin above bridge or even further left over your middle finger. Now on this ball, there is no marked mb, but if there were one, I would probably place it just left of the thumb. This should get the ball down the lane and have an arc on the backend. If you want the ball to flip, then move the mb location just right of the thumb. Hope this helps.
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C-G ProShop-Carl

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2004, 12:29:00 AM »
Ike,

I suggest exactly what Rock suggests, going over the bridge with the pin, or even further left such as over your middle finger. There is no marked MB on the CrunctTime, but placing the CG in the center of your grip would be good. Drill the ball like that and apply some Magic Shine to the surface and you will be good on med/light conditions. Just beware------you may have to put a weighthole in it taking the statics actually to negative so the breakpoint is not as drastic.


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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2004, 07:57:28 PM »
yea - I have a slightly different pap - 5.5" ->, 0.5" -^  and have it drilled with the pin above and between my fingers, with the cg swung slightly left (negative).  Gotta say I love the ball and the reaction.


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Mitch Beasley

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2004, 11:49:06 AM »
What kind of pin and top weight are you going to drill? I have drilled a couple and my favorite is pin above middle finger with CG two inches right with a weight hole at 4" to smooth it out a little. The ball is extremely strong at the breakpoint and I can go around almost anything. If you want the ball to be smooth I recommend the pin below the fingers and between them with the cg to the right about an inch to two inches. A hole will probably be required if you have a lot of top weight. Keep the hole short and it will smooth the reaction a lot.

 If you put the pin above the fingers you will make the core taller increasing the diff and cause more snap at the break point.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2004, 11:56:33 AM »
couldn't you feasibly take this ball, get a 1 inch pin-out ball, and drill it 2x2 thus allowing it only to flare about 2 inches ....polished ?  that should work for medium light,...should create a nice little hockey-stick shaped hard arc...

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Mitch Beasley

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2004, 01:32:15 PM »
I don't think it will only flare a couple of inches unless you have very little hand. It has .047 diff so it should still flare 3-5 inches. If you have some hand it will flare early and quit pretty badly. I recommend a ball with only .030 diff for this layout and a solid cover.
 With a one inch pin I would put it in the palm one inch above center line and it will be smooth have a hard arc in the back.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2004, 01:49:19 PM »
Thumbs..........that's what I "used" to think....

Until my driller (king of the mill from this site) did a one inch pin Roto Retro Resurrection I had with a 2x2 weight hole just passed and under pap, and I used it in box condition on medium light ......
Retro, 2.55 / .055

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Mitch Beasley

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2004, 02:11:40 PM »
Retro Resurection is 2.55 / .045.  It is also solid and will react a lot better that a pearle on the same drill pattern. I drill a lot of balls from 1 to 2 1/2 pin from axis and solids are much better on these. Pearles are normally much more sensitive to the dry and the oil.
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Iketown300

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2004, 02:17:47 PM »
Thanks guys for all the help.  I appreciate it.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2004, 02:25:48 PM »
quote:
Retro Resurection is 2.55 / .045.  It is also solid and will react a lot better that a pearle on the same drill pattern. I drill a lot of balls from 1 to 2 1/2 pin from axis and solids are much better on these. Pearles are normally much more sensitive to the dry and the oil.


my bad! That's what I meant to type! You're right, it's .045 .....yeah, that makes sense...thanks
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sundevil300

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2004, 03:19:26 PM »
i got an idea,   dont use a crunch time on dry lanes.   try a sonic boom or a sonic x for dry lanes and use a crunch time for a day when you hit some oil.  keep your drills simple.  dont try to make a ball tha is aggressive into a pu$$y ball.  that is wasting the balls potential.  that is the route that i would go.  sundevil300
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Jeffrevs

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Re: Crunch time drilling?
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2004, 03:26:31 PM »
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i got an idea,   dont use a crunch time on dry lanes.  


No one is trying....this post says Med-light conditions...........
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