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ccrider

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Uprising Surface Adjustment
« on: December 29, 2008, 04:14:36 AM »
I hope this helps someone, although it is not very technical.

Decided to play with the surface on my uprising. OOB was burning up due to lack of head oil, leaving 10 pin.

Used a somewhat worn 500 abralon pad (lightly using a spinner), and then cleen n sheen firmly.  On a second shift league shot the ball was money playing 15 to 12. In three games, I left one solid 8, and one ringing 10. Other than a few errant shots, the remaining shots were in the pocket and carried.  Had no trouble getting through the front part of the lane with this ball while my gravity shift, ultra zone, cell with polish, were all burning up or overreacting.

With this finish, I think I will be able to carry with this ball all 3 games during our 5 men league. For sure, after the lanes begin to break down and the cell is too strong, the uprising with this finish will be second out of the bag.

While I like my kinetic and hated the rising, this ball rolls better than the kinetic, and carries better. It also handles the front part of the lane better when the lane begins to transition. The ball handles carry down better than the temper. Not much bad to say about the uprising.

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Re: Uprising Surface Adjustment
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2008, 05:36:05 PM »
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I hope this helps someone, although it is not very technical.

Decided to play with the surface on my uprising. OOB was burning up due to lack of head oil, leaving 10 pin.

Used a somewhat worn 500 abralon pad (lightly using a spinner), and then cleen n sheen firmly.  ...

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I am confused. No offense intended. I am trying to understand what you did and why it worked:

As far as I know, the Uprising comes 4000 grit + Factory Finish polish. If it is "burning up due to lack of head oil, leaving 10 pin", then changing the finish to 500 grit Abralon + Clean and Sheen would have to cause the Uprising to burn up even sooner. 500 grit (Ab) is a LOT rougher than 4000 grit (Ab) and Clean and Sheen is not going to change the finish enough to make it smoother/finer than 4000 grit (Ab), no matter how firmly you pressed.

What did I miss in the picture you were trying to draw?

Maybe your UpRising did not come with the 4000 Abralon + polish finish?
I do not know. I am asking.
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Edited on 12/29/2008 6:48 PM
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LaneHammer20

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Re: Uprising Surface Adjustment
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008, 06:47:33 AM »
I consur fully with charlest, I have had two of these and 4000 polished is the only way I can really get good use out of both of them. I think it was either not the finish it was suppose to be at, or you were on too much oil, MAYBE CARRYDOWN for the thick polish that is typically used from factory, to were is wasn't driving like it should have.

I have tried mine at 2000, and 4000 abralong no  polish and both were jujst to much ball unless I had alot of oil out there, and to be at a house were it doesn't transisiton really quick.
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Re: Uprising Surface Adjustment
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 08:39:55 AM »
I didn't want to get too far ahead without confirmation from the author, but as LaneHammer20 suggested, it might have been that there was too much oil for the stock surface to make the turn. Weak tens means it was just barely not making the turn so a slightly rougher texture on the ball would have helped.
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ccrider

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Re: Uprising Surface Adjustment
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 08:53:55 AM »
I purchased an uprising new and then picked a used one up so I sold the new ball to a friend. I am pretty sure the ball was oob when I got it.

On A fresh shot in  before I adjusted the surface, playing down and in the ball seemed to burn out, leaving weak tens too often. Moving in I had major problems with over under.

I applied the abralon lightly trying to get  the surface between 500 and 1000. I the n used clean and sheen  because it shines enough to give good read off of the dry without the over under.

With this finish the uprising is not as strong as my cell polished at 2000 abralon. It is also much more forgiving and carries about as good as the cell.

I understand that 500 with polish is more surface than oob and should hook more at least in theory. In practice, this has not been my experience.

P. S.  Please forgive the fragmented language. I am in a deer stand typing this ok my iPhone.


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Dan Belcher

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Re: Uprising Surface Adjustment
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2008, 09:00:10 AM »
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I purchased an uprising new and then picked a used one up so I sold the new ball to a friend. I am pretty sure the ball was oob when I got it.

On A fresh shot in  before I adjusted the surface, playing down and in the ball seemed to burn out, leaving weak tens too often.
I'd be surprised if it burned up if the ball really was OOB.  The OOB on an Uprising is 4000 + polish, I believe.  That's a very shiny surface!

ccrider

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Re: Uprising Surface Adjustment
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2008, 02:37:46 PM »
The ball looked like the NIB I purchased, so my guess it was OOB surface. It was almost impossible to consistently control playing from wet to dry on clean backends. If I moved outside and played down and in, I could not carry the ten. After fighting it for three weeks, I changed the surface, which is something I generally do only as a last resort.

Now, the ball is money once the shot begins to break down. On fresh, I have to slow my ball speed down, so I prefer to use a stronger ball, i.e. the cell polished at 2000.

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I purchased an uprising new and then picked a used one up so I sold the new ball to a friend. I am pretty sure the ball was oob when I got it.

On A fresh shot in  before I adjusted the surface, playing down and in the ball seemed to burn out, leaving weak tens too often.
I'd be surprised if it burned up if the ball really was OOB.  The OOB on an Uprising is 4000 + polish, I believe.  That's a very shiny surface!

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