Author Topic: Delayed Reaction (Read 1362 times)

Trackoholic · « **on:** December 20, 2006, 07:46:42 AM »

Who uses this and what kind of reaction could I expect? I am assuming more length, but does it give more or less backend? Could a stronger ball become closer to a weaker one with this applied? How about an Equation, Would an Eq become approximately equal to a PPEX or a Desert?
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charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2006, 05:35:13 PM »

(I need to add: In my opinion

Yes, it gives both added length and reduced backend.

Yes, an Equation could conceivably become, VERY ROUGHLY, the equivalent of a PPEX, but neither an Equation nor PPEX would ever be transformed into a DH by even LOTS of Delayed Reaction.

I have used it, DR, at times, and while it makes a ball slightly weaker, it does not usually become the next ball down the line. The reduction is USUALLY not that much.

That said, Delayed Reaction can be a very useful tool at times.
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Edited on 12/20/2006 9:32 PM

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2006, 08:41:03 PM »

Delayed Reaction is indeed a "very useful tool". In my opinion it should be required in every pro shop as a product to alter ball surface. It adds length and reduces backend.....to the point where it can reduce reaction 3-4 boards throughout the lane.

I agree with charlest that it will not turn an Equation into the Desert Heat...but it could make the Equation play more like a Solution PP EX.

I hope this info helps.
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Trackoholic · « **Reply #3 on:** December 21, 2006, 04:50:11 PM »

Right now my Equation is my #1 ball on our house shot, but as soon as I get my PM on Christmas I will apply the Delayed Reaction. Than my 4 ball arsenal would be:

Robo 1000 abralon w/clean'n'Sheen
Power Machine OOB (or maybe Magic Shine)
Equation 4000 abralon Magic Shine than Delayed Reaction
Plastic

Do you see any significant gaps or overlaps in this 4 ball arsenal?
Would I still need a weaker ball, Desert?
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Robo Rule
Power Machine
Black Widow
Equation
Plastic

Edited on 12/21/2006 5:51 PM

tenpinspro · « **Reply #4 on:** December 25, 2006, 02:37:19 AM »

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Do you see any significant gaps or overlaps in this 4 ball arsenal?
Would I still need a weaker ball, Desert?

Hey Trackoholic, it depends on your overall hook or how many boards you typically can or do hook. Depending upon how rev dominant you are (stated in profile), typically the more equipment you will need to help play the various angles and conditions.

Theoretically speaking, if you only hooked the ball 8-10 boards (pretty much a down and in player), you wouldn't need too many pieces to fit into that game because you're typically not going to be much deeper then 10-12 board at the arrows on an average house shot. If you were bending the ball from 17 (at arrows) to 5 (at breakpoint) and back, that's approximately 29 boards. That bowler would need more pieces to help them with these severe angles and anything in between.

I personally feel there is still a small gap from the Equation to plastic unless you can fluff it (or clear heads) pretty well when they get on the drier side. Hope this helps some bud....

PS. Also responded to pm....
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Trackoholic · « **Reply #5 on:** December 25, 2006, 09:33:23 AM »

Well, I have never had my rev rate measured so I can't accurately communicate this info, however I can say I usually cover many more boards than a down and in player. I would only play down and in if the oil was too long and heavy to get a good break on the ball. When the lanes break down on our league night I move inside and find more oil and the Equation gets pleanty of angle.

I do understand what you said about a higher rev rate player needs some extra equipment to adapt to the changing conditions. Thats good info, and by the way I was already thinking about getting a desert, but only after I try the Equation w/Delayed reaction, but I'm waiting for my PM before I adjust the surfaces. Sound like a plan?
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Power Machine
Black Widow
Equation
Plastic

tenpinspro · « **Reply #6 on:** December 25, 2006, 03:16:51 PM »

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I do understand what you said about a higher rev rate player needs some extra equipment to adapt to the changing conditions. Thats good info, and by the way I was already thinking about getting a desert, but only after I try the Equation w/Delayed reaction, but I'm waiting for my PM before I adjust the surfaces. Sound like a plan?

Yes, that sounds like a good idea.
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2006, 08:57:33 PM »

The definitive thing about Delayed Reaction I have heard...is that is a "slip agent".

For me it increased length and decreased backend.
It must be used judiciously! It's Slippery!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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