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Buckwild

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Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« on: December 14, 2005, 02:01:45 PM »
I have my Angular drilled with the pin over the ring, cg kicked out to the right, small weight hole, box condition; Reactive is drilled with the pin over ring, cg stacked, polished with Magic Shine. I would like to know which order I would put these two along with my Slash (box condition, label drilled) as far as strongest to weakest?

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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2005, 10:13:37 PM »
well the reactive is naturally a stronger ball in terms of total hook and backend reaction compared to the angular... but since you have it polished you are probably getting a similar look. what you've truly done here is put both balls in the same oil handling condition, which, IMO is a mistake. i have one polished and would say it's probably still stronger than any angular i've ever seen... sometimes it even rolls out on some medium to light conditions regardless of the polish, and it's drilled pin over bridge, cg center of grip... if you want more separation, take the reactive back to 1200 or even up to 1500-2000 grit sanded and you will see some separation... have fun.
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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2005, 07:44:57 AM »
The reactive is stronger than the angular.  I would put the angular right along side of the slash.  Even with magic shine on the reactive it is still stronger than the angular.

Edited on 12/15/2005 8:35 AM
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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2005, 08:00:12 AM »
If you dull the Reactive down, it will pick up the quickest. After, the Slash would pick up next with the dull surface, and the Angular, being pearl and polished, would pick up last....with more backend as you go down the 3 as well. With the Reactive polished, the Slash may very well pick up the quickest in oil....and the Reactive and Angular would only be slightly different from each other...

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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2005, 08:05:41 AM »
Throw em and tell US.

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Buckwild

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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2005, 08:19:48 AM »
I will tomorrow night. Just looking for some opinions. When you guys look for differences in your equipment, do you choose a line (ex. 2nd arrow), and play each ball down that line?
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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2005, 08:34:26 AM »
Buckwild, great advice from everyone here.
And to answer your question, yes.
Roll each ball down the same target (i.e. 2nd arrow) with the same type of release and everything.
Throw the first ball, observe and remember what happens.
Throw the next ball, observe and see what happens (was there a difference in reaction from the first?)
Lastly, throw the final ball, observe and see what happens (was there any difference from the other two balls?)

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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2005, 08:43:09 AM »
Yes these are all a bunch of medium condition balls.

Quite close in many respects.

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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2005, 09:51:37 AM »
These balls are all different in their paths and hooking ability.  The Reactive is stronger than the Angular and Slash.  It picks up very early.  If it were me, I would keep the Reactive box and polish the Slash.  You would then have a nice separation between the 3 balls.  The Reactive for medium-heavy, Slash for medium but still want a smooth look and the Angular for the medium when you want more kick dowlane.
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Buckwild

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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2005, 10:11:00 AM »
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well the reactive is naturally a stronger ball in terms of total hook and backend reaction compared to the angular... but since you have it polished you are probably getting a similar look. what you've truly done here is put both balls in the same oil handling condition, which, IMO is a mistake. i have one polished and would say it's probably still stronger than any angular i've ever seen... sometimes it even rolls out on some medium to light conditions regardless of the polish, and it's drilled pin over bridge, cg center of grip... if you want more separation, take the reactive back to 1200 or even up to 1500-2000 grit sanded and you will see some separation... have fun.
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Edited on 12/14/2005 11:05 PM



Brooklyn,
I didn't have the Reactive polished, it was that way when I recieved it (used). On Saturday, I will discuss it with my coach whether I should dull it back up.

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Buckwild

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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2005, 10:14:42 AM »
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These balls are all different in their paths and hooking ability.  The Reactive is stronger than the Angular and Slash.  It picks up very early.  If it were me, I would keep the Reactive box and polish the Slash.  You would then have a nice separation between the 3 balls.  The Reactive for medium-heavy, Slash for medium but still want a smooth look and the Angular for the medium when you want more kick dowlane.


Thanks, Chappy. I'm thinking about having that done to the Reactive. Now, as far as my Delta, should I leave it box or polish that? Also With the Slash polshed, would it be still stronger than my Heat?

So many choices!
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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2005, 01:05:49 PM »
Since judging by your profile you seem to be speed dominate (you throw it harder than the revs you generate), I would keep the Delta box.  I would return the Reactive to box and then polish/sheen the Slash.  That would give you 3 different surfaces, cores and reaction shapes.

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Also With the Slash polshed, would it be still stronger than my Heat?


Loaded question  It depends.  There will be times when the Heat will appear stronger simply because it hooks more in the backend whereby the Slash is more even rolling.  The Slash is still stronger because it's solid and it has a stronger cover but it will be stronger in the heads and midlane.  What you could do is instead of highly polishing the Slash, hit it with 2000 grit Abralon or very lightly hit it with Clean N Sheen over box finish.  

Hope that helps and good luck.
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Buckwild

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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2005, 08:16:25 PM »
Appreciate the advice, fellas!!
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Buckwild

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Re: Arsenal Angular vs Reactive
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2005, 10:48:40 AM »
Yesterday, I had the Reactive put back to box condition and the Slash polished (he put a coat of Black Magic over the box finish). Like Achappy said, the differences between the Reactive, Slash and Angular are now more pronounced. The Reactive is now rolling earlier, so I can use it for more oil, the Slash goes a little longer and finishes with a hard arc, and the Angular goes about the same length as the Slash, with more kick in the backend. As far as my question about comparing the Heat and Slash, the Slash turns more in the midlane than the Heat, with the Heat having more continuation when it hits the pocket. I played all balls side by side playing the line from 12 to 10.

Thanks again for all of your advice.
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Edited on 12/18/2005 11:39 AM
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