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Track_Fanatic

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Mean Machine-Track Flare
« on: September 19, 2006, 01:35:07 PM »
having an issue with track flare.  My Mean Machine only gets like 1/8 to an 1/4 inch of track flare between the flares.  I know this ball is to get through the heads easier than the Robo or the Machine.  I have lowered the side weight to 1/2 positive and altered the surface a little.  Got better reaction but still, I thought this was suppose to have a bigger backend.  Any suggestions would be good.

------------->             *pin

----------->           x x


---------------------->                    ^CG



------------>            x + mass bias

Had an issue with the CG being approx. 3" offline.  I know it all matters with pin and mass bias but the damn weight hole is big.  It's on my PAP.

Thanks in advance.

Sorry, I forgot you have to put things in front of the diagram to make it stay they way it was entered originally.  Sorry for the confusion. My PAP is 5 1/4 right 3/8 up

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Re: Mean Machine-Track Flare
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2006, 11:29:18 PM »
The problem is that your weighthole is on your PAP. Placing a weighthole on PAP great (in my opinion) reduces the breakpoint. It smoothens a ball out.

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Re: Mean Machine-Track Flare
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2006, 09:43:09 PM »
Carl,

in his case, where you say the weight hole on the PAP greatly reduces the breakpoint,  where and how would you suggest the weight hole be placed in order to keep a strong breakpoint on the MM?

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Re: Mean Machine-Track Flare
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2006, 11:47:41 PM »
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Carl,

in his case, where you say the weight hole on the PAP greatly reduces the breakpoint,  where and how would you suggest the weight hole be placed in order to keep a strong breakpoint on the MM?

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What he could have done is put the balance hole below his pap.  I also have read that Balance holes placed 6" from grip center produces the most angular break point.

I don't know a lot about this stuff.  I only know from personal experience.  I always get my balance holes put on my mid line.  I was placing it about 6" from grip center on my mid line but with how much these new balls flare I have to start placing the balance hole 5" from grip center.  This way I wont flare over the hole.

Well with placing the Balance hole on my mid line I get plenty of back end.

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Re: Mean Machine-Track Flare
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2006, 06:42:29 AM »
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quote:
Carl,

in his case, where you say the weight hole on the PAP greatly reduces the breakpoint,  where and how would you suggest the weight hole be placed in order to keep a strong breakpoint on the MM?

Edited on 9/25/2006 9:37 PM


What he could have done is put the balance hole below his pap.  I also have read that Balance holes placed 6" from grip center produces the most angular break point.



No, AFAIHL (as far as I have learned), placing the wt hole at the PAP is normal and makes the ball flare slightly earlier than no wt hole> Whether this flare makes the ball earlier or snappier depends on how that AND when that flare occurrs. Usually later on pearls or polished balls, making them snappier; Usually earlier on solids/particles or dulls balls, making them smoother.

Placing the wt hole at 6 3/4" from grip center makes the ball flare more and earlier than one on the PAP. ALso placing the wt hole 2.5 - 3" BELOW the PAP, has the same effect at on at 6 3/4" but it also raises the bowtie.


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