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cooksey

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Drilling for a unleashed
« on: March 09, 2004, 03:10:41 PM »
Hello all, I am a stroker. Some specs in profile. I am getting this ball Friday and was wandering about the best way to drill it. I can't throw pin under drillings because I track over the finger holes. I was thinking of a stacked leverage drilling or placing the pin and the mass bias in the number 2 position according to tracks drill sheet. Which drilling would give me the most backend reaction or do some of you track experts have some better suggestions. Any help is always appreciated. One more thing I know the ball has a 2 to 3  inch pin but can't remember the top weight.

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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2004, 09:18:35 AM »
It's highly recommended to drill Track's asymettrical balls with the pin below the fingers.  This is because it shortens the core and makes them much more predictable.  I seem to remember Del saying that the cores in these balls lowers the track so that even high track players could go under the fingers or at least inline (don't quote me).  Someone here may correct me or you could try calling Track.  I assume your Animal has the pin above the fingers.

The number 2 MB position will give you the most backend reaction.  I personally prefer MB position 3 or in between 2 and 3 for control purposes.  That being said, it would help to know the layouts and surfaces of your other balls, how you want this ball to compare to those and also what surface you plan on using the Unleashed.
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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2004, 06:21:47 AM »
Hey Cooksey,

The Unleashed fits between your Animal and Revmaster nicely but as A.Chapman requested, what do YOU want out of this ball?  Do you just want the most backend?  How's your Animal drilled?  Do you want a similar look but for less oil?  Let us know so we can be more precise in our recommendations, thanks.
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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2004, 06:47:47 AM »
Thanks guys for the responses. I bowl on older wooden lanes that are not oiled the greatest. They get sloppy with the stripping allot of the time. The pattern is oil to 28 and buff to 42 I believe with an OOB past the 5 board.I am looking for the ball to be able to gone on thru the backends when they are spotty instead of hook skid hook again reaction I sometimes get now. Plus I want to be able to use it at other house to plat a little deeper on better conditions. Hope this helps. Let me know what you think.

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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2004, 02:57:39 AM »
Hi Cooksey,

I have my Unleashed drilled 5x3 mb pin under bridge and mb in my val .  This pattern gives me very good control and a strong arcing backend, nothing crazy.  Based on the info you've submitted, it sounds like you want to over power the spottiness and this ball with a controlled pattern should do that.  I would advise to try the ball with the surface as is but if it seems a little jumpy still, take it down to about 1000 and it should give you a much smoother reaction.  I would suggest this layout or something very similar because this will help keep the ball more stable then having a strong mb which can allow it to be a little too strong on the backend.  I agree with A. Chapman in regards to placing the pin under the fingers, in the Morpheus cores, it does not pull the track up like other balls.  I believe Excaliber has drilled some of his Track balls with the pin under fingers without problems and he also throws a very high track.  Hope this helps...
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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2004, 05:44:51 AM »
I drilled my Phenom U with pin above
because pin were 4 1/2 long..
I have control and a huge backend.
Drilled 4 1/2 * 4 with no hole
The best ball for me ever, together with Mojo(3 3/8 * 5).
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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2004, 07:20:57 AM »
Thanks guys for all the suggestions. I have gotten allot of good ideas. I will hopefully be receiving the ball early next week and getting it drilled. I also called track and you guys are correct about the pin placements below the fingers. I will post results of how it works when I get a few games on the ball. Again you guys are great and allot of help.

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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2004, 07:27:39 AM »
Ten is on again.

I normally track high. I drilled a Phenom pin 1" above midline x 3.5 from pap x 4.5"

my track has actually migrated farther from my Fingers( inverted track.) and thumb.
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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2004, 08:51:20 AM »
Thanks Omega, keep this up and I'll have to buy you lunch.  Question, when the track migrated away from fingers for you, was it still inverted?  Just curious...thanks.

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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2004, 09:20:04 AM »
Yea it is.

No matter what I do, I always have an inverted track

the only time My ball ever flared the "other way" was a BLueberry with the pin in the track. then it flaired between the finger and thumb like a full roller. but man that ball hit.
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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2004, 09:47:13 AM »
Wow, I wasn't going to mention this but now I have to.  I have a good friend who tracks very high and inverted like you.  We played with a R.Fuel and placed the pin in the track 9:00,cg in palm and mb at 3:00, everything in line straight across horizontally, guess what?  Yep, he tracked full roller....I thought I was losing my mind...strangest thing I've ever seen.  Okay, if your getting the same reaction as my friend, a stack lev will also tend to lower your track some, it should pull you off the fingers and thumb so you're not as high.  This is what he gets when we do that....thanks.
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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2004, 09:53:23 AM »
I having an Unleashed drilled 4 x 4.5(MB) so I will see How This will work.
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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2004, 01:22:36 PM »
I also have the inverted high track. It's true that I should be able to drill the Phenom, Unleashed or Animal with the pin under the ring finger? I've never been able to do this without rolling completely over the middle finger.
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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2004, 01:26:39 PM »
drill a huge hole 4" in diameter anywhere in the ball, and plant panzies, cuz that's how it hits!!!  heh heh heh . . .
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Re: Drilling for a unleashed
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2004, 03:23:32 PM »
Hi DW,

Yes, you are correct.  The Morpheus cores are much stronger then most weight blocks so they help flare downward pretty quickly.  I drilled one for my friend who has an the high inverted track and he has no problems, I understand your concerns though but this ball didn't and shouldn't track over the fingers for you either.  Hope this helps...
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