Post by: NJStroker on August 25, 2008, 06:27:47 AM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they''re going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Rileybowler on August 25, 2008, 02:42:27 PM
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Carl
Post by: NJStroker on August 25, 2008, 02:46:11 PM
quote:yea that was an informative, and i do have other stuff, and it works just as good.
Maybe it's time to stop throwing that Track garbage and get some real equipment in your hand.........
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: OddBalls on August 25, 2008, 02:48:13 PM
I would suggest trying soemthing else and not be ball stubborn because it's new..
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Post by: Dan Belcher on August 25, 2008, 02:53:31 PM
Post by: FastTracker33 on August 25, 2008, 02:57:13 PM
Ya know, I really loved my Rising. The reaction out of it was pretty darn nice, but I had to throw it EXACTLY PERFECT just to get that nice reaction/hit at the pins. If there's one thing I may suggest, try throwing something low/midline from Hammer. The Razyr, the Vibe series, the Raw Hammer series.. They're all amazing. My scores have dramatically increased throwing those balls, while my scores with my Rising were nothing where they needed to be. I just shot mid-high 500's with that ball, and low 600's. With my Blue Vibe, I haven't shot below 668 with it.
This is not biased at all, it's just my own personal opinion coming from my own eyes/score monitors.
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Post by: Billy Ray on August 25, 2008, 03:58:56 PM
Work with someone who knows your game or can spot fundamental problems that would be causing you problems.
What area are you in we may know someone who is qualified in your area to work with?
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Post by: Grayson on August 25, 2008, 05:57:47 PM
I ran into the very same problem... had a ball drilled more aggressive then my old one and hoped and "decided" it had to be more aggressive.
But it isn't.
So I force it... I want it so "it" "has" "to" "be"!!!!
I also changed my game to get more speed and more impact... result: Balls skid through...
Till today
finally let the ball work and let it work where it works best not forcing a line into it . ti could never work....
and I was almost back to good...with the new ball.
Maybe you should take a step back... maybe use an old ball... Just to get confidence back....
Relax pal! You know you can bowl good... so why not do it
CYA next time and then I hear good news from you
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hey guys, just was gonna post this in here since i mostly throw track, and just to vent a bit. but it seems like my whole game tanked this summer. it seems that once i got my rising drilled, and it was drilled Long, it ruined my whole game. i cant repeat a shot for my life, my game changes every week, clip the fingers EVERY shot on the rising, but not on anything else, i've lost all confidence, all spare shooting ability, and all fun for right now. winter leagues are starting and i am completely lost, i bowled this summer in a pba league, i mean im still at like 190 THS but i used to be 205 on THS before this summer. idk what happened its just like i lost all talent, or luck since i probably started with no talent. Sorry guys just needed to vent a bit.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they''re going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
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Post by: Xcessive_Evil on August 25, 2008, 07:00:16 PM
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If you're missing spares, you're either trying too hard, or not concentrating. Take it one shot at a time, just roll the ball out through your target. Don't make things harder than they need to be. Throw a ball that you're comfortable with, something predictable, something that feels good in your hand.
That's pretty much how I feel about it.
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Post by: NJStroker on August 25, 2008, 10:49:09 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: NJStroker on August 25, 2008, 11:08:26 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: NJStroker on August 26, 2008, 11:03:00 AM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on August 26, 2008, 11:43:49 AM
You got alot of guys on here who are coaches, and know how to fix things. I would say get a video of yourself and dont post it on here. Send it to some of us through email, and let us watch it. We can then give you info on how to stop of these things. That way you can practice them and try to get out of whatever funk you are in. We all go through it, every now and again. Getting the help and applying it is what gets you out of it.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."
Post by: NJStroker on August 26, 2008, 02:25:41 PM
quote:scoot thats a good idea, as i have a feeling i will get flamed if i post it on here directly, but i will try and do that very soon, should be able to in the next week or so actually.
NJ,
You got alot of guys on here who are coaches, and know how to fix things. I would say get a video of yourself and dont post it on here. Send it to some of us through email, and let us watch it. We can then give you info on how to stop of these things. That way you can practice them and try to get out of whatever funk you are in. We all go through it, every now and again. Getting the help and applying it is what gets you out of it.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Norm1184 on August 27, 2008, 10:01:26 AM
I can't help your game unless I see you bowl. Tough patterns can make bowlers do things they aren't comfortable with. It's a game of consistency. House patterns with the dry boards out also develope bad habits because the dry is not there on the tougher patterns.
Next, it's not the equipment. Track has some of the best stuff on the market. They admit the Rising isn't for everybody and they have addressed every issue with that ball and fixed it with the Uprising. I drill balls and since it's been out I haven't had any complaints. On the other hand, I get complaints all the time about Bruswick and used to for Rotogrip before the Cell was released.
If people don't give the new Track stuff a shot, then they shouldn't make any judgements.
Personally I can say I've been bowling with their stuff soley for the past 2 years. I don't have any honor scores, but I do have several more series over 750 than I had before I used their equipment and I have more 270+ games than ever before. My leaves are not corners, they are solid 8's or 9's. That just goes to show you how hard the balls hit.
Try a Track ball. I suggest the Kinetic Energy for starters!
Norm
Post by: NJStroker on August 27, 2008, 11:12:28 AM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: bowler0821 on August 27, 2008, 11:38:33 AM
You said that your Rising was drilled long and that you kept throwing it and that other things started to fall apart correct? This is just an idea that with you trying to change back from something that is longer in span to others that are shorter you might be spinning the other balls more now that your hand is trying to get used to a longer span and I can only say for myself that if I try a shorter span I tend to spin the ball more. THis could just be an idea for the lost of revs. Also, my suggestion would be this take your favorite ball out of your bag only one along with your spare ball and take thoes in and practice with thoes and thoes only. So you have 2 balls that feel the same with span and everything and you can allow your hand to reagain the memory of how thoes fell. Also, this can help your arm and everything else regain muscle memory. That is just my idea.
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Post by: jhutch769 on August 27, 2008, 11:43:24 AM
Post by: Phoneman on August 27, 2008, 11:48:02 AM
Post by: CPA on August 27, 2008, 12:33:36 PM
A THS pattern has a large concentration of oil in the center of the lane. As the shot breaksdown, you follow the oil line towards the center of the lane. Also more side roll with a sharp change of direction works on a THS. PBA patterns don't have the large concentration of oil in the center of the lane. Therefore as the shot breaksdown, your adjustment is to find more oil in the front part of the lane, which often times involves moving farther outside on the lane. The PBA patterns encourage more forward roll and not a sharp change of direction.
I don't believe it is a problem with the ball. However if it is a new ball, I would check the span and pitches to be sure the fit is correct and similar to your other balls. As the others have said, go back to basics. Try to relax and have some fun. The scores will comeback to normal.
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Post by: NJStroker on August 27, 2008, 01:12:19 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: rengawB on August 27, 2008, 02:11:56 PM
That is the funniest sh it I ever heard. You are a "tool".
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NJ,
You got alot of guys on here who are coaches, and know how to fix things. I would say get a video of yourself and dont post it on here. Send it to some of us through email, and let us watch it. We can then give you info on how to stop of these things. That way you can practice them and try to get out of whatever funk you are in. We all go through it, every now and again. Getting the help and applying it is what gets you out of it.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."
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Don't sing it, bring it!!
Post by: NJStroker on August 27, 2008, 04:38:45 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on August 27, 2008, 05:35:22 PM
May I ask what the issue seems to be with the pro shop closest to you? Just wondering. I know the pro shop closest to me sucks balls.
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I don't mean to be high speed/high rev, I was just born that way.
High game-300
High series-796
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Post by: NJStroker on August 27, 2008, 05:39:55 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on August 28, 2008, 12:07:12 PM
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"Send it to some of us through email, and let us watch it. We can then give you info on how to stop of these things"
That is the funniest sh it I ever heard. You are a "tool".quote:
NJ,
You got alot of guys on here who are coaches, and know how to fix things. I would say get a video of yourself and dont post it on here. Send it to some of us through email, and let us watch it. We can then give you info on how to stop of these things. That way you can practice them and try to get out of whatever funk you are in. We all go through it, every now and again. Getting the help and applying it is what gets you out of it.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."
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Don't sing it, bring it!!
Sorry dont see a connection to your statement.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."
Post by: rengawB on August 28, 2008, 06:33:44 PM
quote:Quote
Sorry dont see a connection to your statement.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."
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Don't sing it, bring it!!
Post by: Norm1184 on August 29, 2008, 12:08:27 PM
If you have a drop ring, you are going to spin the ball. I'd check the fit. Then I'd go to the ball you think has the best and most comfortable reaction, meaning where you can play a comfortable line and work on your game. Pick one thing at a time and work on it.
If it's timing, my suggesting is start with the feet. Feel free to send me email or message on here and we'll see what we come up with.
Norm
Post by: NJStroker on August 29, 2008, 12:53:49 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Norm1184 on August 29, 2008, 01:17:19 PM
Whatever you decide on, you NEED to make all of the balls the same. Changing fits all the time, and/or going from one ball to the next when the fits in each are different is only going to cause problems. Consistency should be your number one goal.
Post by: NJStroker on August 29, 2008, 01:19:34 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.