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chitown

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Gp2 or not?
« on: December 19, 2005, 12:36:08 AM »
Well guys this is the situation and I need some input.  

I bowl on a league that puts out a lot of different patterns through out the season.  Sometimes they will keep the same pattern for a couple of weeks.  Never more than 4 weeks.   Sometimes the pattern has changed every week.  Almost every pattern is very tough.

Well this is the situation from yesterday.  I talked to the guy that's in charge of oiling the lanes for our league.  I asked him what kind of pattern was out there.  He told me a 47' pattern.  So during practice I found out that this pattern was HEAVY OIL. The pattern also was flat gutter to gutter.  The strongest heavy oil ball I had in my bag was the Rule Delta 1 which I dulled to 600 grit(green scotchbrite).  This ball even thrown with an end over end release only hooked about 3 boards.  My normal higher rev release didn't do much better.  This is the heaviest longest pattern I have ever bowled on.  Scores were real low.  Nobody could get there ball to do anything and carry was bad.

Well we don't bowl for two weeks because of the holidays but I exspect this same pattern when we come back.  Do you guys feel that this pattern is so heavy that a ball like the GP2 wouldn't perform much better than the Delta 1?  I plan on bringing my Animal with me but would like to hear what you guys think.
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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2005, 08:40:45 AM »
Bring the Animal or another very strong particle and dull it as much as you can IMO! Take that thing down to 320 grit!
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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2005, 08:41:18 AM »
either a GP2 or one of your Animals?
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chitown

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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2005, 08:44:17 AM »
Have you guys ever bowled on a condition that was so heavy that any ball wont hook?

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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2005, 08:46:47 AM »
Yep....move right, get some surface, and play the rocket to the pocket or fluff it with no belly.

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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2005, 08:47:39 AM »
I have bowled on a condition where the lane machine did not strip any of the oil off of the lane but, re-applied new oil onto the lane. It was like VERY heavy oil with HUGE carrydown! I had an absolute Inferno at the time that skated down the whole lane. It would move about 4 boards max (lots of revs with no speed)! I went and got my first GP2 at that point and it worked OK! It would have worked better if I dulled it some more though!
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chitown

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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2005, 08:59:08 AM »
Well I was forced to play from the corner and pointed the ball to the pocket.  I didn't do very well.  It was a bad day of bowling.  I will be prepared for this condition in two weeks when we get back at it.
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chitown

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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2005, 09:16:09 AM »
I'm going to take one of my animals and dull it to like 320 grit for this condition.  If that ball doesn't hook then nothing will.  The time that I put my animal away my league throws out the shot form hell.lol!  I will have to place this ball in the bag just in case.

I wouldn't be surprised if my league after the holidays throws out a real dry tough shot.  They have done that crap before.  Really oily one week and super dry the next week.  Got to love this league.
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chitown

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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2005, 09:24:23 AM »
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I'd take the GP2 down and throw it straight up to the pocket.  Just one thing though that I've noticed about my GP2, it hates Guardian so if your center has that, reconsider.  Not saying it wouldn't work for you, it just doesn't work for me.
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I don't know what kind of synthetics they are but will find out.  I don't have a gp2 but do have 2 Animals.  I bought a case of them for a great price but gave a couple away.  I'm just going to dull one of them down to like 320 grit.  If that doesn't work then nothing will on that condition.  I will be forced to just point it to the pocket with a lot of speed.
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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2005, 09:27:25 AM »
what drilling will you be using on the one you hit w/ a burgandy scotch brite?
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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2005, 09:28:33 AM »
chitown,

What happened to being able to use the Arsenal Reactive on heavy oil? kidding


The GP2 would definately be better than the Delta. The Delta can handle some oil.....but I would rather have the GP2 in my hands. One of your Animals could do the trick if you put enough surface on it. The GP2, as I have stated before, is the ball of choice for floods though. If you cannot get the GP2 to move then you probably won't get anything to move.

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chitown

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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2005, 10:24:33 AM »
Ex I really think that on this condition no ball will work.  I really feel it was that heavy of oil.  Even by the 3rd game 5 player per team the oil was still bad.  Nothing would hook.  There was a guy on the other team that throws without his thumb and puts a lot of revs on the ball and his ball went stright with a little hook at the back end.  I really think that they put out way too much oil.

We may never see this pattern again.  Last week the oil machine broke and they put the oil on the lanes with mops.  The lane guy told me this week that the machine was fixed and they put out a long 47' oil pattern.  I hope to never see this oil pattern again but want to be prepared in case.

What is the lowest grit you put on a ball.  I have an unleashed that has been plugged a few times that I can dull down to a real low grit so I can blow a hole in the pattern.  How low should I go to do this?  80 grit seems kind of low.lol
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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2005, 10:32:44 AM »
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Last week the oil machine broke and they put the oil on the lanes with mops.  


Chit, this is the way they did it when I began bowling years ago. (before your time...lol) Put it on with a mop and then evened it with a soft push broom.

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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2005, 03:32:47 PM »
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what drilling will you be using on the one you hit w/ a burgandy scotch brite?
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Re: Gp2 or not?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2005, 08:07:19 PM »
This sounds like what I bowl on every Friday morning in a 55 and older league. The first 7 pairs of lanes are TIGHT and it takes 10 guys to break down the shot to be able to score. The other 12 pairs we bowl on are less tight and have more back ends. I have used my delta 1 with success after learning how to slowwwwwwwwwwwwww it down and let it roll. My gp2 has only worked well a couple of times on this tight shot.

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