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Fatboy8

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GP2 pics and problems
« on: December 03, 2005, 01:57:51 AM »
I've been still having problems matching up with my GP2. It's 1200 grit with clean and dull. It just doesn't have the reaction I think it should, so here's some pics to see what you Track guys think:

http://photobucket.com/albums/y2/heidi_brian/?action=view¤t=inferngp2ultimate002.jpg

Thanks for the help!
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Fatboy8

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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2005, 10:19:00 AM »
It just doesn't move much for me in the oil. Not near of a hook monster everyone says it is. Maybe I just don't match up with this ball.
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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2005, 10:27:04 AM »
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It just doesn't move much for me in the oil. Not near of a hook monster everyone says it is. Maybe I just don't match up with this ball.
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ummm... i don't think this ball is meant to be a "hook monster" by any means. it's a great control piece as far as my experience has been with it. and it does give a nice smooth reaction in oil (it is particle after all, it's not going to give any kind of "snap" no matter how it's drilled).

perhaps you have a misconception as to the purpose of this ball? maybe i'm wrong, who knows? mine doesn't move a huge amount of boards on ANY condition, but it does give me great control and a hard hit in the pocket. this ball will never give any kind of "over-under" problems, but it will BURN UP on the wrong condition and will roll-out early if thrown into the dry too early. are you sure you're using it on heavier oil conditions?

just my opinion. thanks.
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Fatboy8

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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2005, 10:33:31 AM »
To you, how should this drilling work? I thought it would be ideal for heavier conditions. And yes, it was used on a truely heavy shot. It just goes way longer than what it should.
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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2005, 02:15:42 PM »
I have my ball drilled with the pin under the ring finger and cg right of that with the mb to the right of the thumb and a weight hole. It does not hook like your thinking in terms of a hook. On oil the ball roles very well and hits like a truck.

I am sure one of the track pros will be able to look at your drilling and suggest something. But I don't think where your pin is very good for a ton of oil.

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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2005, 02:41:34 PM »
Hook means nothing, jeez, this ball is smooth and powerfully cuts through the oil and does not burn up, so it hits REALLY HARD ON HEAVY OIL, thats why it is great, not because it hoks a ton.

Hook = some stupid thing people think they need.
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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2005, 02:59:07 PM »
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To you, how should this drilling work? I thought it would be ideal for heavier conditions. And yes, it was used on a truely heavy shot. It just goes way longer than what it should.
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Edited on 12/3/2005 11:36 AM


The drilling for asymmetric is intimately tied to your PAP, tilt, rotation, etc, MUCH more so than symmetric cores. I don't see your PAP or any other details about your delivery/release in your profile. So this ball could be drilled all wrong for you. Also, asymmetric drtillign are VERY dependent on a consistent release; same revs, same tilt, same PAP, same rotation angle for each delivery; otherwise the ball will not react consistently.

WHat oil pattern/amount are you bowling on?
What balls do work for you on this oil?

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Fatboy8

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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2005, 05:41:58 PM »
My Ultimate Inferno is laid out the same way and is great on any amount of oil. Hook isn't necessarily what I'm looking for I should clear up. The ball fails to make a good turn at all to the pocket. It rolls really nice, but is very inconsistent when it makes it's move. That's why I figure it's time to get rid of this ball, not worth the trouble anymore.
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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2005, 10:02:38 AM »
Fatboy8- i think the ball should have a strong arc reaction as it is drilled similar to mine. The mass bias looks like it is close to your vertical axis line and the pin looks like it's close to a leverage position and should have a large flare potential along with a early,heavy roll.Maybe you should try to adjust the coverstock and see what happens. Just my thoughts. Ken

Edited on 12/4/2005 10:53 AM

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Fatboy8

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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2005, 07:46:20 PM »
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Fatboy8- i think the ball should have a strong arc reaction as it is drilled similar to mine. The mass bias looks like it is close to your vertical axis line and the pin looks like it's close to a leverage position and should have a large flare potential along with a early,heavy roll.Maybe you should try to adjust the coverstock and see what happens. Just my thoughts. Ken

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Edited on 12/4/2005 10:54 AM


I've had the ball down to 600 grit, all the way up to where it is now. I use mostly Brunswick, and I think it's just different than what I'm used to. It's a good ball, my buddy has no problems with the same ball, it's not a good match-up for me.
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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2005, 06:48:02 AM »
Your last couple of comments are the best points int he thread....my UI works great.....if a reactive is working really well, there is no need for a particle more than likely on that/those conditions as the amount of oil out is not going to be enough for a particle to work correctly!

Second, not every ball matches up for everyone....when you drill a $200 ball for someone and it just doesn't do a darn thing you want it to, its the toughest thing to swallow for someone!

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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2005, 08:11:35 PM »
Clint- you are exactly right, some balls just don't match up. That's why I've decided to sell or trade it. I will be a good ball for someone!
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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2005, 07:03:45 AM »
charlest,.......ONCE AGAIN.......is very very correct!!

This looks like a stacked leverage drill to me w/ a mass bias location in the strong position....not necessarily a heavy oil drill .....
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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2005, 09:18:26 AM »
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Second, not every ball matches up for everyone....when you drill a $200 ball for someone and it just doesn't do a darn thing you want it to, its the toughest thing to swallow for someone!

 


I agree with Clint 100% on that statement. That is exactly what I experienced with my Xception 5.0.


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Re: GP2 pics and problems
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2005, 11:39:20 AM »
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It just doesn't move much for me in the oil. Not near of a hook monster everyone says it is. Maybe I just don't match up with this ball.
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I had a similar experience as you. I wasn't really fond of mine, which is why I sold it to buy my Smokin Inferno. The ball just didn't hook as much as I expected. I don't remember the drill I had on it, but my buddy who I sold it to gets a ton of turn on it, but he has a much slower ball speed. I understand your disappointment better than most probably. Mine was outhooked by far by a Nemesis, Raging Inferno, and Smokin Inferno...and it wasn't burning up cus there was plenty of oil. Just didn't fit me I guess.
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