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BulldogsFan89

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Having a little trouble...
« on: November 09, 2005, 12:17:19 PM »
I'm 16, and I'm currently trying to build an arsenal. I have 2 balls that I use. A Rule GP2 and a Storm Triple X Factor.

I'm deciding on another ball. Currently in my league I hardly ever use the GP2 with not enough oil it doesn't work very well.

My Triple X is great the last few games. I always start out with 150's, then for my second game 190's, and my third game around 220-250's. The Triple X doesn't read the lane very well until the oil is worn out, or at least thats what it seems to me. Yes, I've tried moving around but haven't had much success. So I'm looking for another ball strong than the Triple X but not an oil monster like the GP2. I'm open to all companies, not just Storm and Track. Please post what ball you think would do best.

By the way I don't know all of my stats. All I can say is I have a Medium-High ball speed.

 

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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2005, 08:28:09 PM »
BulldogsFan89-

Based on what you've said, I would recommend an Arsenal Reactive or a Blue Heat.  The Arsenal Reactive is my first choice because the coverstock is a fairly significant step down from the Rule GP2-  1) It doesn't contain any particles.  2)The coverstock, Power Pack, is slightly weaker than the GOO used on the GP2.  Being a low-RG ball, it should rev up easily for you on heavier oil and provide a strong arc to the pocket.  It should be significantly stronger than the Triple X, which would give you good separation among your 3 balls.

You could also try a Blue Heat.  This ball does use a particle coverstock, but it is weaker than the coverstock used on the GP2.  It also has a higher RG than the Arsenal Reactive, which would make it want to go a little longer before hooking.  The one benefit, for you, for the Blue Heat over the Arsenal Reactive is that it will probably be about $25-30 cheaper.  I have not thrown the Arsenal Reactive and the Blue Heat side-by-side, but I would assume that the Arsenal Reactive would handle about the same amount of oil as the Blue Heat, while giving you a little more hook on the backend.

There are plenty of Track experts on this website.  I would suggest waiting a couple of days before making a decision on which ball you want to buy; there will likely be many more good suggestions for you.

Good luck in your bowling!
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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2005, 09:07:12 PM »
Tonx-

I'd be hesitant to recommend the Slash.  From what I've seen and read about the Triple-X (I haven't thrown one), it's intended to be used on medium conditions.  I don't think Bulldogs would see a whole lot of separation if he went with a Slash, as that also is meant primarily for mediums.  Purely speculation, but I would assume he would see just a little more hook up front and a little less on the backend, which wouldn't be enough separation in a 3-ball arsenal.

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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2005, 09:37:27 PM »
Ok, the Arsenal Reactive looks like a pretty good choice. But what about the Rule Delta 1, how would that fit in there? Or the Xception 5.0?

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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2005, 06:30:44 AM »
Delta 1 would be a touch closer to the GP2 as it is more ball than the Arsenal Reactive....

The 5.0 would probably be too close to the Triple X as they are both pearls and the 5.0 is at home on mediums...which is where it sounds your Triple X lands as well as you don't use it on true heavy oil...

Arsenal Reactive is probably the way to go...best reactive ball for the buck on the market today in my opinion.

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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2005, 07:33:15 AM »
What layout would you recommend for this ball?

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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2005, 07:41:04 AM »
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tripple X factor- pearl
GP2- super heavy oiler

whats missing? Solid reactive/benchmark ball!!!!!

best from each company IMHO

Ebonite: V2 power (box)
Hammer: Hawg (box)
Storm: Vertigo-(Polished) (maybe a diablo)
Visionary: Frankie may (800 grit polished)
Brunswick: strike zone (box)
track: SLASH (box)

Many many more to choose from, but they are my picks!!!

Good Luck



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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2005, 08:14:06 AM »
Layout would depend on your stats (PAP, etc) and how the GP2 and Triple X are drilled.

Let us know!

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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2005, 09:30:30 AM »
I don't know my stats, but if I post some pictures of the balls later today would that help any?

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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2005, 10:04:00 AM »
Yea, anything would help!

Thanks!

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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2005, 02:36:13 PM »
Bulldogs,

I have to agree with the Arsenal Reactive OR the Rule Delta1. The Delta (as Clint mentioned is closer to the GP2.

Both the Delta and Arsenal will fit between the equipment you have. If I were in your position I would get the Delta1 because you can adjust the surface if it tends to be too strong. I like asymmetrical equipment and having the ability to adjust reaction with MB placement.

I hope this helps,
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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2005, 02:45:57 PM »
Geez...I thought the Slash looked great with Norm Duke and Randy Pederson having at each other at 50 feet last year!!!

Can't be too weak!

Very smooth and strong in our area!  I could see havin one as a benchmark in between GP2 and Triple X!

REgards,

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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2005, 04:51:56 PM »
LuckyLefty-

The 50-foot pattern used in the Tournament of Champions does not incorporate a high volume of oil beyond approximately 32 feet, which would make a ball that's smooth and *relatively* strong ideal.  To use anything stronger at that time would result in too early of a read (if it didn't read at 25', it'd be reading at 35' for sure), and the players would not be able to play where they would prefer.  

And, I should've stated this earlier:  I have a Slash, and I LOVE it!  I imagine Excaliber still feels that it doesn't get enough credit (at least, I still feel that way...).
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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2005, 11:01:24 PM »
Took some pics of the GP2 and Triple X with my friends camera. He was supposed to send them to me tonight, but I guess he didn't have time, so they should be up sometime tomorrow afternoon.

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Re: Having a little trouble...
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2005, 10:07:06 AM »
While I'm waiting for my friend to send me those pics ( hopefully before 5:00 ).

How would the Hawg Wild compare to the Arsenal Angular? Or Paradigm? Shock and Awe?