i have both .the machine is drilled pin right and above ring with cg and mb kicked right and nvs is drilled pin under bridge with cg and mb kicked right both about 30 degrees.
the machine is older and i imagine its oob as i bought it used,the nvs is at 2000 dull.
I have been looking for a med. to light ball and not expecting it to be the nvs but even at 2000 the nvs is a good 7 boards weaker than the machine. The backend of the machine is phenomenal to say the least.Some have said the kinetic is stronger than the machine and i think the nvs and kinetic are pretty close to the same ball from a different company. I was really suprised to see how little movement i get from the nvs compared to that of the machine.Does the set up make that much difference? If it does i am glad i drilled the nvs like i did because it would have hooked off the lane
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