Thanks guys for your time, I ordered two today, one is for my son, he is an Ebonite user but is turned off by the One line due to excess oil absorbsion. We will let you know how things go later in the week. P.S. Sunday I bowled with a young guy throwing the the Big One, he used to roll the One. I asked him where his One was and he said in my bag, I still use it for dry lanes, 120 games =dry lane ball. So I asked how is your Big One holding up? he said good so far, I try not use it so much so it won't die out. What good is any ball if you are afraid to use it? He and I are just regular house bowlers. My Robo 733, his Big One 611