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monstercrank

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help with arsenal
« on: June 29, 2005, 06:54:40 AM »
i recently putchased the xception and i was wondering what would be a better match for a step over it a rule, xception 5.0, or a gp2. i have the layout of the x posted in the reviews section.
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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2005, 03:05:12 PM »
Well, depends what you are looking for. The 5.0 will start up sooner and have a nice backend for you, although not as much as the original X which will get down the lane further as well. The Rule uses the same core with Goo reactive. It will start to roll sooner than the original X and have less backend in general. The GP2 is an OIL MONSTER! It loves oil, but once the oil goes, so does this ball. A cover change will help, but thats not what this ball was made to do.

In general I have at least 2 balls of all of the ones mentioned above and have used them beside each other. All have the same drill pin under ring, cg in palm, mass bias left of thumb. I leftone of each with factory surface and changed the other. If it came dull, the 2nd one I polished and vice versa.

The GP2 is the strongest by far.

The Rule is 3-4 boards less, great medium ball.

The 5.0 is roughly the same as the Rule, 3-4 boards less, but follows a different ball path.

The original X is about 5-6, if not more, boards less than the GP2 and goes the furthest down the lane and has the most backend out of these 4 balls.

I would suggest either the GP2 or original Rule as the dull surface will help you combat more oil than the polished pearls of the Xceptions.

However, it also depends on what youexactly are looking for another ball to do.

Let us know!

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monstercrank

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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2005, 03:13:59 PM »
those are the two i thought would be the best, i am looking for something strong, could you tell me the differences in reactions between the rule and the gp2
also i was thinking it would be better to have it be to strong and tune it down with cover stock ajustments than have it be to weak, but that could also go vise sersa.
most of my balls are drilled pretty aggressive so witch ever one of these i choose will mostlikley be drilled strong.

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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2005, 03:15:29 PM »
could you tell me the differences in reactions between the rule and the gp2



The GP2 is Goo Particle and the Rule is Goo Reactive.. Naturally the GP2 will check up earlier then the rule.
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monstercrank

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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2005, 03:17:23 PM »
that is a good point. i think i am leaning twords the orignal rule.

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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2005, 03:18:42 PM »
I *THINK* the gp2 is easily polished up.. im sure some people added polish to the GP2 to make it go longer..
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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2005, 03:20:55 PM »
yes but with my experince once you change the surface of a particle drasticly their is no going back.

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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2005, 03:25:35 PM »
I currently have 2 GP2s that are drilled the same as I mentioned above and a third that is drilled SUPER STRONG. The GP2 I polished I hit with Magic Shine 4 times on each side of the ball and looks like a marble. All of Track's covers are easily adjusted, whether it is polishing it up from coming dull from the factory or dulling them down from the factory. I have done this over and over with all of the new releases from Track since I became a staffer. It goes long and has a very nice move to the pocket. If the balls did not have labels and looked different, you would never know this was the same ball, drilled the same way, its that different. I just shot 224-279-300(803) (see the article on Track's website) using the polished GP2 on the left lane and the GP2 with factory surface drilled the same on the right lane. GP2 picks up much earlier than the original Rule and has alot of backend for a strong particle ball, due to the higher RG of the ball and the dual particles in the cover. For an oil ball, its tough not to say GP2 right now, for anybody. It is that good!

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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2005, 03:41:40 PM »
I would go with a Rule or Xception 5.0.  The Rule GP2 is way too much of a step up and you'll have a gap between the two balls.  If you like the reaction of the Xception, go with the Xception 5.0 for a very similar reaction.  

The Rule is a great ball that handles the same amount of the oil as the Xception 5.0, but the reaction of the Rule is a very strong arc whereas the Xception 5.0 will be closer to a flip.  Both balls are great, it just depends on what reaction you're looking for.  Hope this helps!
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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2005, 10:09:02 PM »
It really depends on the type of reaction you want.

If you want something to cover oil and alot of it, get the GP2. The GP2 will roll sooner than the Rule, but one good thing about the dual particle coverstock is that it has (in my opinion, I have 4 GP2s drilled up) identical backend as the original Rule. The GP2 is rare in that it will backend better than any highload particle EVER.

The 5.0 is an awesome ball as well. I believe if the surface preps were identical it would move more than the Rule. With the OOB finish the 5.0 definately has backend and if thrown on fresh backends it will cover more boards than the Rule. Even with the OOB finish, the 5.0 will handle its share of oil.

I think the GP2 would be a big step up from the Xception, but if you want the ball for heavy oil, then you have to choose it. If you want something more playable on Heavier house shots then the 5.0 is the way to go.

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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2005, 03:23:08 AM »
Hey monster,

The guys have given great answers already.  I just have one more comparison for you, the 5.0 is the next step up, Rule (step and 1/2) and the GP is a good 2-3 steps up from the Xception.  

As stated, the GP is mainly for heavy oil and there would be a gap between that and your Xception.  Hope this helps some...
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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2005, 12:14:50 PM »
thanks for all the help, i will most likely get the rule first and then get the gp2 for those rare days that i see a ton of oil. i was thinking i would get the rule drilled VERY strong and put a light polish on then eventually get a gp2 and get that drilled strong and keep it factory finish.

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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2005, 11:06:40 PM »
hector,

Even with alot of revs, he will be fine if he uses them on the condition that they are meant for. As was already stated, he could tweak the cover a bit if he does expience burnup.  I think he will be using the Xception on most conditions.

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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2005, 11:53:22 AM »
i didint even consider burn up but it is a big factor. but i have gotten my revs down a bit.

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Re: help with arsenal
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2005, 11:56:04 AM »
monstercrank,

If there is enough oil present for the ball, then it won't burn up.
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