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Mikemack42

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916 AT Help
« on: May 04, 2013, 05:03:45 PM »
Hey everyone, I have been having great success with the Track number balls for the past two seasons. I have shot my first sanctioned 300 with a 505A, I love my 715T, I have just recently got a 503C which seems to be a great fit for me. the issue i am having is with the 916AT that i have. I feel like it isnt what it was talked up to be. To be honest my 715T has more motion and is much more aggressive. I have thought about altering the surface, its OOB right now. I just didnt know if anyone else has had success and what suggestions anyone had for me.

I throw the ball between 16-17, I track pretty high, and i have med-high revs.

Thanks

Mike

 

tommyboy74

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2013, 09:14:16 PM »
The 916AT was definitely not all that it was talked up to be.  There was 1 person that actually threw it in my league last year.  Halfway through the season, it was retired because it simply did not do what it was intended for.  Others I know that have had it did not like the ball and ended up selling it.  Actually, the same can be said with my 919C over a year later.  Even though at first I thought it was a good piece, it ended up being way more condition specific than I thought it would be.

As for your 916AT, I would attempt adjusting the surface first to see what that may do.  Potentially a different layout depending on the conditions you face may be another option as a last ditch effort.
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lifted rillo

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 10:57:14 PM »
I have my 916 pin down and it is VERY condition specific. It needs long oil to perform at all. I have mine at 500/rough buff and it's much more controllable. I have to play a little deeper than I normally would, but I can't swing it too much. I have to keep my breakpoint pretty tight. Otherwise it pukes and doesn't turn the corner. I use mine for tournaments and sport shots only. OOB, the ball didn't hook much at all, so I went 500/2000. That was entirely too much surface, so I went with the 500/rough buff. I understand your plight, so I would definitely change the surface before I dumped the ball. I will reiterate the fact that when the conditions are there, I have a perfect storm for high scores with this ball.

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2013, 09:53:48 AM »
i have or had a majority of the numbered series balls.
the 500 & 700 series are proven series
the 900, not so much, the 912T is the only one so far that may be the real deal as far as the 900 stuff being stronger than the lower numbered ones.

300T is a great ball for thr short sport
505T, 503T,505c, all great versatile pieces for medium patterns
715T,715T, really good for the higher volumes

Me personally, i do not have great reaction with much of the "A" balls
have had several, they just move off the spot to quick for my game

the 916 & 919 were not what i was looking for at all. got rid of both right away
got another 715t instead

Mikemack42

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2013, 11:30:36 AM »
Ok so getting rid of the ball is not what i want to do ideally. i want to see if anyone has had success changing the surface and what that surface change was...Thanks Rillo for the tip. What change did you see in reaction with the surface change? I think the ball hits like a truck when it gets to the pocket without burning up. but i need to find a way to more consistently get it there.

lifted rillo

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 12:08:36 PM »
How is your ball drilled? I don't really know much about angles, but give me some stats an I can make a better reccomendation. First thing I'd do is try to play deeper. Or maybe hit it with some polish first if you want to play closer to the track area.

Dave81644

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2013, 01:28:13 PM »
Did not meant to suggest getting rid of it, i had to.
Definitely try to alter surface, rule of thumb is to always go to the lanes shiny
and adjust by hand from there during practice.

It will be an experiment of sorts.
Same thing i do when going to tournaments

the 916 is 2000 dull OBB, do oyu clean it when done after each set?
you should do this to keep the reaction consistent
some really good wipes (approved for use during as well)
are the powerhouse adrenaline wipes, amazon has the cheapest price i have seen

on my spinner, clean n dull is really good 
 you may want to freshen up the surface with 2000 and then see you how you like it

lifted rillo

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2013, 04:11:46 PM »
Also with it being 500/1000/2000/2000, it's pretty shiny anyway. Might try hitting it with a fresh resurface of 500/1000/2000 and leave off the last 2000 step. Keep a little more roughness. A lot of people I know that had the original Mission loved the ball once they redid the surface without the last 2000 step.

RCKYURWLD

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2013, 08:46:05 PM »
The 916AT is a very touchy cover. Mine is pin below. 2K dull is too aggressive for me. 2K/polished is good for me only on the fresh shot as with the normal condition, the ball tends to not be as clean or reads friction up front. That kills the back end. You can avoid it some with loft and speed. For me, it's 2K/high gloss polish or 3K/polish. The ball is plenty strong, it hits and carries well   

Mikemack42

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2013, 10:34:45 PM »
Alright, Thanks everyone for the help, I think i am going to try 500/1000/2000 without the second 2000 tomorrow at the shop. I will post after i throw it Thursday night in league. worse comes to worse i guess i can plug it and mess around with a Motion hole layout or RICO right?

Mike

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2013, 10:48:15 PM »
The 916AT is PLENTY strong. Just make sure it is clean through the fronts. If you feel like you need to throw it harder to get the ball down lane, it is most likely losing energy up front. Make sure you are playing the lanes correctly. Sometimes all you need to do is move left and give it some room. It is very strong and angular off the break. 

lifted rillo

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Re: 916 AT Help
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2013, 09:33:33 AM »
Alright, Thanks everyone for the help, I think i am going to try 500/1000/2000 without the second 2000 tomorrow at the shop. I will post after i throw it Thursday night in league. worse comes to worse i guess i can plug it and mess around with a Motion hole layout or RICO right?

Mike

No way you should make it stronger through drilling. If anything, you should have it pin up with a long pin-to-PAP distance. That should get the sucker through the heads. There's no chance of the ball getting downlane with a RICO drilling or a MOtion hole. Either of those would make the ball absolutely unusable on every condition that I have ever seen.

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