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tenpinspro

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How accurate are you?
« on: January 09, 2008, 01:15:21 AM »
This is a higher level practice technique I grew up with in Chicago.

At the arrows, go ahead (w/ permission from the house of course) and "tape" down a quarter on a board or so of your choice and see how many times you can hit that quarter. The ball should thump or you'll hear it or as it rolls over it. Back in my day, it was a dime and if you couldn't hit it more then 8 times, you weren't that good!...  I'll give you guys a quarter due to equipment strength and area created by technology. These days....you can still get to the pocket effectively easily with that much room.

My average?...I used to be able to go 8-9 out of 10 but my buddies on Touring 1 (highest) just put me to shame (we had separate categories for touring to regional pro players way back when) so I knew where I stood with them.

(Sorry, interjection....Touring pros 1&2 and then Regional guys... Forgot what it meant exactly but I think it it was similar to Touring 1 being "exempt" and "non" which still had to qualify from week to week thru rabbits....now aka PTQ)

Understood that today's game no longer takes that kind of accuracy.....but imagine what your scores can be like if you were able to hit that quarter everytime (assuming you were lined up correctly....that's the next month's tip/excerpt from my book)

One more note....NO cheating!..lol You still have to throw the ball normally or with close to the same amount of lift effort as you normally do. I learned I could fluff it and hit it 10/10...lol Maybe this says something about your personal game, huh?........I'm not your Prez without reason.....  

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on edit: After hitting the board(s) of your choice to satisfaction....move it. If you can do this effectively, I'll explain what you've accomplished.....


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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2008, 09:43:01 AM »
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This is a higher level practice technique I grew up with in Chicago.

At the arrows, go ahead (w/ permission from the house of course) and "tape" down a quarter on a board or so of your choice and see how many times you can hit that quarter. The ball should thump or you'll hear it or as it rolls over it. Back in my day, it was a dime and if you couldn't hit it more then 8 times, you weren't that good
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Are you kidding me!?  I'd have to put the quarter about ... thirty feet down the lane!  That's where my ball 'touch down' (I'm an ATC when it comes to bowling )
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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2008, 09:51:55 AM »
I need a dollar bill across the boards.....;D

but I'll work on it!

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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2008, 10:56:53 AM »
I can hit the right side of the lane 9/10 times.  lol

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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 11:40:39 AM »
Rick what is the name of your book??? I would like to purchase a copy of it thanks-barry

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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008, 01:45:05 PM »
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I need a dollar bill across the boards


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I can hit the right side of the lane 9/10 times


Ditto on what bstone and pop 1 said.

Geez Nephew, when I can't hit 2 boards consistantly, how do you expect me to hit a quarter board?.........Oh wait, maybe put the tape 3 feet past the foul line?
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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2008, 09:18:24 PM »
Then you can totally feel good about yourself, when you go see some coach in NC named Clifton who then puts a piece of tape at 40 ft and asks you to hit both. By the way Rick 7-8 of 10 on the front dime, and 3-4  of 10 on the back tape when I had skills. My game is fairly straight in projection so that helped also. If you like to swing the ball and work at these drills you can really help your game immensely.

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008, 10:06:17 PM »
Seeing how my game has got personal one on one help from Carl for almost 7 years now. This was one of the first things we did to help build my accuracy. We started with a quarter, then we moved to a nickle then a dime. We ended up moving the tap further down the lane. This helped me learn to bowl on a drier condition. By placing the tap further down lane you are then trying to get the ball to that point.

I would have to land at least 13/15 when we would do this. I have sence started to add more tape areas. My favorit on to do is to place the dime covered one at the arrows. Then down the lane place to at the same distance on the lane only on different boards. Maybe 3-5 boards apart, with the goal to roll the ball over the first tape and then inbetween the two down lane.

I find that this helps me to be more consistant on shots like you see in a PBA league. Where you have to hit your mark in the heads but still feed the ball to the right spot downlane to get that consistant reaction.

With the way Rick states I can land 9/10, normaly. The further you move the tape the harder it gets. When the tape is down lane I can land about 7-8/10. Yet the hardest is the way I have been doing it with the tape in the heads and the area to hit down lane. I havent done it lately but last I tryed I was only hitting a 66% on it so 6/10. That isnt bad but much improvement is needed.

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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2008, 09:04:04 AM »
Rick... Your post brings a smile to my face. Every time I see this subject come up I think of what the Hall of Fame Earl Anthony once said. When asked by a fellow Bowler what board he was rolling the ball over, he said "I am useing the cracks, for my target, not the boards."

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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2008, 09:20:10 AM »
I've done a variation of this in the center where I used to work.  I'd put 2 pieces of tape 2 boards apart, the obvious goal being to put the ball between the 2 without touching them.  I eventually got to the point where I do what Earl Anthony talked about - using the board joints as targets - by hitting the crack between the 2 pieces of tape.

I've worked with Ron Clifton, also.  I wasn't able to replicate the targeting thing with him after he completely restructured my approach to eliminate a bad drifting habit.  Until I got used to the new approach, my targeting was out the window.  Nevertheless, time with Ron is worth every penny.  I wish I could get out there more often.
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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2008, 09:39:39 AM »
I'm running...have an interesting view of this post!

Will attend to it when I get back...

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2008, 01:47:15 PM »
Years ago when I started bowling(about 9years).  I met a fantastic local pro.

He was struggling for him and was averaging about 219.

I noticed his incredible frustration at watching lesser bowlers(less accurate) beat him in tourney after tourney.  Often due to carry!

At one point he exclaimed..."I am the 4th most accurate bowler in the world!'

At this point I queried "hack that I am....can I ask you a question?"

I continued, "What do you base that on?"

HE replied that at one of the high roller tournies he had tested #4 for accuracy.

I replied "so that explains it!"

"WHAT"??! he replied!

"Well all that coming out of a balanced follow thru position in order to hit your mark"! I replied....

You see he had been doing ANYTHING to splice his mark...breaking back his wrist...straightening his knee, whatever it took he spliced his mark at the arrows!  But his carry percentage was abysmal!
AND to average 219 this is while almost not missing a single pin all season!
(a multi time regional champ this is!)

At the same time we had a very good form bowler on our team who was really on fire seemingly being able to average near 240 or higher every time he felt like it on league conditions!

He explained to me his goal was to hit areas near the arrow while maintaining beautiful followthru form and a consistent clean release and if he "missed" the exact center of his almost 3 board area at the arrows so what...with a clean release and strong leverage position at the line he "WOULD" carry.

A year or so ago my regional pro friend adopting this "new for him "not so accurate philosophy in league (but proper balanced and leveraged foul line position) recorded one of the highest right handed averages at his home center a 24X and was for one of the first times a righty to lead this lefty friendly center in average!

He got it!  He is no longer as accurate in league while continuing to contend very strongly in regionals and has even looked pretty darn good at the US open at times!

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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2008, 02:14:55 PM »
I like to use this drill: i have a bowler put a piece of tape on their breakpoint(this is one thing that people over/under estimate).  i have them trying to move around on the lane trying to hit the same breakpoint from 1st arrow 2nd arrow, and so on.  Not only do you develop some great accuracy, you learn how to manipulate hand positions at the same time.
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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2008, 10:04:45 PM »
On a good day, two boards at the breakpoint, at the arrows pretty decent.  But I don't use the arrows, just have a 5 board drop board besides my ankle at the foul line and I check where the ball breaks and how it reacts... am just lazy I guess...
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Re: How accurate are you?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2008, 10:18:15 PM »
i've bowled on the cheetah pattern at 4 pba regional tournaments. that's 32 games, each game playing straight down the 2-3 board for the entire game.....i may have changed equipment but never changed my line. i had no gutterballs for these 32 games.

in practicing for this type of shot i would put strips of white athletic tape on the lane----one piece on the first board and the other piece on the fourth board. this was my target.