I asked this question in the drilling forum and they pointed me to come here and post it saying that there were some real knowledgable people in this forum about this subject,  now here it is.

I have a friend that got a Track Xception from a closeout deal a while ago. well this ball has probably the worst pin/cg/MB line I think I have ever seen. Its a 1 inch pin, and it is literally in a "T" to the mass bias. basically its like this

P CG


MB

We tried a drill with the MB on left side of thumb and it just did not roll well at all for him. (fairly low rev, slow ball speed, high track, stroker).
I have heard of layouts where you draw a line 13.5" from the MB through the Pin and then use the spot you end up with as the MB??? Not sure if that would work or not as I'm not exactly a pro on Asyms. basically if I can do this then I would lay it out something like pin next to ring with the CG kicked towards the Midline and then have the Opposite MB mark around 3-4 inches away from his PAP. Anyway, just wondering if this would be a legal drilling and how it would work, the pros, the cons, etc. I'm hear to learn so go ahead and teach me.

Thanks,
Jeremy


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yeah, I realize that you just don't worry about the CG, in asym balls, but if I were to lay it out the way I would like to, I'm going to have so much finger and side weight that I'm not sure I could drill a X-hole big enough to get them down under 1 oz.  On top of that if I were to lay it out like that then the placement of the weight hole would more than likely be in a place where the track would flare over it.

Jeremy
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you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
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when you are right handed and you have that placement of the pin, cg and mb it does make it hard to get that ball to have the mb on the right hand side of the ball and still have the ball legal. It is able to do but a little harder then normal. Yet most people see the way mikes MM was and think O man that blows, but I think that makes it easier because then you can kick the mb out to the strong position you want and not have to worry about weight hole. Only thing is that mikes was a little more then what I am talking about, [url]http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3136544[\url] now that is a more ideal look as to what I mean about how the mb being right of inline can be a good thing. But if it is left of inline for a righty it gets a little tricky to drill but stil able to do, but you will look at having to use a weight hole. If I had that ball I dont know if anyone els would put this layout on it, but I would go with pin and cg on my val and then I would try to place the mb close to my thumb to maybe try to get it to retain some backend reaction. Yet the side weight may be really high and hard to remove.
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Hey Tyler!

One thing I noticed about your RD1 is that its a x-out. Funny thing is..my RD1 had that exact same line up of Pin, CG, MB and it was a 'first', it had no 'x out' on it at all. Hmm...weird! God Bless You and have a great week!

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Mike yours is pretty much the complete opposite of what he is refering it.  I know Jeremy as well as the person that he is refering to.  The ball is layed out kinda like this.

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------cg--
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-MB-------

I'll try to take a pic of the ball tuesday or wednesday if the bowler in referrence has the ball with him and post it here so everyone can see what Jeremy is talking about.

As for Rey Ray (Jeremy) GASP I can belive you posted something in the Track forum.  LOL.  


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Do you have a pic, or can you desrcibe the layout you put on your RD1 then?  Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Tyler

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Hey Tyler!

One thing I noticed about your RD1 is that its a x-out. Funny thing is..my RD1 had that exact same line up of Pin, CG, MB and it was a 'first', it had no 'x out' on it at all. Hmm...weird! God Bless You and have a great week!

--Michael--
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