Post by: Ric Clint on May 21, 2004, 12:07:50 PM
This ball is super strong! I'd have to say 9-9.5 on a scale of 1-10!
And I know several of you agree with this... everybody is reporting that this ball is way strong in the backend!
Post by: TWOHAND834 on May 22, 2004, 03:34:12 AM
You may want to take into consideration the other balls Track makes. If a ball like the Animal Untamed is rated a 9 and the Unleashed a 9.5, on the same condition with the same drilling, the Crunch Time will not be as aggressive on the backend as the others. GRANTED...if you put a 5 x 2, 5 x 3 type drilling, you can make the backend reaction stronger. However, if you throw the Unleashed or Untamed and the Crunch Time back to back on the same condition, you will notice the difference. You can manipulate ball reaction based on drilling, but I believe the ratings are based on a straight over label drilling on a typical house shot (synthetics, 38 feet of oil with a stronger concentration from 10 to 10).
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Post by: tenpinspro on May 22, 2004, 08:25:54 AM
I tend to agree with TwoHand, I'd say manufacturers rate all their equipment on one shot. If they were to test each ball for the condition that it was supposed to be used on, then you're correct. You would see a 9 for the CT on a med-lite condition and a 9 as well for the Untamed on med heavy oil.
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Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on May 22, 2004, 04:33:42 PM
I have seen a lot of balls come out that were rated to hook a lot, and then I saw them thrown and it is nothing like the rating.
It is hard to get a standard for rating. You would need something like consumer reports to perform the test.
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Post by: LuckyLefty on May 22, 2004, 04:47:09 PM
Anyone else notice this?
A good example was rotogrips. All silver streaks were monsters in the back, but never compared to the fuels(and the fuels were in general very smooth).
Yet the fuels all rated as stronger. Go figure!
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: Ric Clint on June 04, 2004, 03:52:51 PM
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I've also noted that companies ALWAYS rate their top of the line(pricewise) balls as higher in hook or backend rating than their mid price balls.
Anyone else notice this?
A good example was rotogrips. All silver streaks were monsters in the back, but never compared to the fuels(and the fuels were in general very smooth).
Yet the fuels all rated as stronger. Go figure!
REgards,
Luckylefty
EXACTLY, Lucky!!!
I thought I was the only one to notice this! Guess I'm not alone!
About the new Sheer Havoc... they give it only a backend rating of 6 on a scale of 1-10 also?
I threw a friends Sheer Havoc - the ball is way strong! And matches my game great! I'd have to say 9-9.5 on a scale of 1-10!
NOT a silly little ol' 6 !!!
Post by: janderson on June 04, 2004, 03:59:43 PM
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I would say that Track is using the same type of shot when they are testing the ball and using the same layout in each ball. All the number is subjective, and each companies numbers reflex their views or "marketing".
Exactly - which is why this site exists "Ball Reviews... Before you Buy". Overall, I've found many of the ball manufacturers' sites to be inconsistent (in my opinion) with the actual performance of the ball.
Another important point to remember is that a ball that is strong on the back end in your hands may be zero on the back end in someone else's. The biggest effect on the reaction and performance of a bowling ball is the person throwing it.
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