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danny524

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I need some help
« on: May 24, 2005, 07:02:27 AM »
I'm working on my track line up Arsenal.
Can I get some help please?
This is what i want to do and any input will be very helpful.

Heavy oil-Rule GP2
medium oil-Xception 5.0
light oil-Xception

I need drilling suggestions or any other input.

Thanks!!!


 

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Re: I need some help
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2005, 04:04:25 PM »
Although the Xception is a pearl, its coverstock is still VERY strong for use on lighter oil patterns.  I'd probably replace the Xception with a Heat, or you can get both the Xception and the Heat.  If you can wait, the Desert Heat might be another excellent choice for light/dry.
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danny524

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Re: I need some help
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2005, 06:26:03 PM »
Thanks!!! more input will be very helpful!!!
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Re: I need some help
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2005, 06:36:35 PM »
Heat baby!

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Re: I need some help
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2005, 10:19:20 PM »
danny,

Are you able to give us any info on how you throw the ball? This would help us supply better info for you. Some may not be able to use the Xception on dry, while others may be able to do so.

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Re: I need some help
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2005, 01:38:44 AM »
Ex,
Thanks for the help again!
I'm a average speed bowler with low rev but really not sure on the other info.
I really like the xception.
Maybe I could used a weaker drill on the Xception???

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Re: I need some help
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2005, 01:42:44 AM »
Ex,
After watching your video, I could see that my release and throw are pretty close to you. Just that I'm not a GREAT bowler like you.
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Re: I need some help
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2005, 05:55:39 AM »
danny,

First off, I am far from great bud

I am one of the bowlers that feel with the proper layout and surface prep the Xception could be used for dry lanes. I know that for my game it could be.

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Re: I need some help
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2005, 10:15:02 PM »
Ex,
what is a good weaker drill for xception?
do you have pic of your bowling ball?
thanks!
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Re: I need some help
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2005, 10:17:42 PM »
danny,

No pic of my ball yet bud. I am just learning how to do all of that stuff

The Xception that is in the video is drilled with the pin below the ring finger, MB just right and down from the thumb.

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Re: I need some help
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2005, 12:45:58 AM »
Ex,
My xception 5.0 is on the way.
I want to used this ball for medium oil.
what is your drilling suggestion???



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Re: I need some help
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2005, 01:39:47 AM »
Copied and pasted this from the other post of yours....Definitions are from the BR.com faqs...
I'm not one to make suggestions, and most of those guys are probably in bed so I'll go ahead and post what I think they might ask of you before they make a recommendation.

1. What reaction are you looking for out of the ball?
Definition: I'm not defining this....

2. Where does your ball track?
Definition:
Full Roller: Goes between
High-roller/High-tracker: Within a half inch or sometimes hits the thumb
Semi-roller: .5 to 3 inches
Low-roller/low-tracker: 3 to 5 inches
High-spinner: 5 to 7 inches
Low-spinner: more than 7 inches

3. They mostly want to ask... What is your PAP?
Definition:  PAP (POSITIVE AXIS POINT)
The axis of the ball during the first few revolutions that is created totally by the bowler's release style. The point on the ball that is equidistant from all points of the release ball track.
Ways to find it:
Least accurate: Draw a perpendicular (90°) line 6.75" from your track through grip center the end of the line will be close to your PAP.
Very accurate: Use an Armadillo Axis point locator tool. Place the Armadillo on your track using the line that most closely represents your track arc and mark the spot indicated by the Armadillo.
Exact: Roll low flare (spare) ball down the center of the lane where the highest concentration of oil is then using a grease pencil trace your track. Place the ball in a spinner with the track down and orient the ball to where when it it spinning the trace line doesn't wobble up and down. Then take the pencil and place it on the top of the ball and move it around until it goes from making a circle to a defined dot, or use a quarter scale/pro sect tool and draw a line connecting your track at points that are 180° from each other and repeat the step at a point near 90° from the first line where the 2 lines intersect is your PAP. If you do not have a low flare ball you can use any ball as long as you use the track that is closest to your thumb and farthest from your fingers. This is the release track, because as a ball flares the track migrates away from the thumb and towards the fingers.
If anyone would like reasons for why one is more/less accurate than the other I would be happy to explain.

I'm probably missing something but that will get you started.
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Re: I need some help
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2005, 02:22:20 AM »
Hey Danny,

Ex and I drilled ours with pin under bridge, his mb near val, mine on val and this still allows the ball to be pretty strong on the backend.  Unless you want the ball to turn over very hard, I'm actually suggesting somewhat of the same layout.  The 5.0 is a lot stronger then I originally thought.
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I'm a average speed bowler with low rev  


quote:
After watching your video, I could see that my release and throw are pretty close to you.


Therefore Ex, you are also low rev by definition of reasoning 101..LMAO

No worries Danny, just having some fun...

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Re: I need some help
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2005, 03:25:53 AM »
Thanks again!!!
I won't ask the same Question again.

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Re: I need some help
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2005, 07:59:32 AM »
danny,

I like what Rick mentioned about the layouts we use. I would probably put the pin above the fingers though, it may give you a little more length. You will probably need that on mediums.

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