Post by: RCKYURWLD on August 04, 2008, 09:13:39 AM
The infatuation with the older stuff...
The older Texas Track balls are/were GREAT balls. Different covers and cores. That was Track. No one can take that away. The Machine line is STILL a great line. The ROBO is still an awesome ball as is the POWER Machine. The new stuff IS Ebonite. Everyone is trying to pimp the new stuff on here and understandably so.
You can still win money with the original Track Equipment. It's still all about matching up. Your style, the condition, the layout, the surface, and the line you play as well as the adjustments you make.
I know people that still throw plastic and can score well
If you're on Staff for Ebonite's Track I can understand your positive feeling about the new products. Don't rip on those who love the original TRACK. My stuff still rolls pretty and smacks the pins silly. The Phoenix is a damn good ball too.
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Post by: NJStroker on August 05, 2008, 12:18:28 AM
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Post by: pnj1967 on August 05, 2008, 08:26:57 AM
Dont be afraid to try the new stuff!!
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Post by: Xcessive_Evil on August 05, 2008, 12:53:33 PM
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Post by: BigWillyStyle on August 05, 2008, 01:33:19 PM
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Post by: Billy Ray on August 05, 2008, 04:16:22 PM
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With regard to the comment that was made in a post about someone loving his Machine and looking for a compliment
The infatuation with the older stuff...
The older Texas Track balls are/were GREAT balls. Different covers and cores. That was Track. No one can take that away. The Machine line is STILL a great line. The ROBO is still an awesome ball as is the POWER Machine. The new stuff IS Ebonite. Everyone is trying to pimp the new stuff on here and understandably so.
You can still win money with the original Track Equipment. It's still all about matching up. Your style, the condition, the layout, the surface, and the line you play as well as the adjustments you make.
I know people that still throw plastic and can score well
If you're on Staff for Ebonite's Track I can understand your positive feeling about the new products. Don't rip on those who love the original TRACK. My stuff still rolls pretty and smacks the pins silly. The Phoenix is a damn good ball too.
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Edited on 8/4/2008 6:18 PM
Well since i'm the one who made the comment let me say this:
First I loved all the old Track stuff when i was throwing it.
I made a ton of money with the Nuke's and Heat's and Triton's!(I Think i was the only guy who loved the coral Triton!)
My thing is the new stuff is much easier to match up with i think on todays new oils and surfaces. You have a ton of expertise to help you match up a new ball to your game. Not just from Track but from everyone and best yet is alot of it is FREE both here and other avenues to gather information. Its also easier to get the newer stuff (Obviously) and the newer technology even in the past few years will help your game. I would love to get my hands on some older stuff just to have it in the bag sometimes but as supplies dwindle it gets harder and harder if not impossible soon. I just think that getting accustomed to the newer stuff will help you more than drilling older technology. As for affordability I have seen the prices go up and up on older equipment as it become more and more rare. Its supply and demand thats all.
I understand having a favorite ball or a few of them, we've all had those awesome balls that could do no wrong!
Don't be afraid of the new stuff that's all there's a great chance you can find a reaction you need in the bag.
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Post by: Grayson on August 05, 2008, 04:25:32 PM
Old stuff - known stuff. So when I need a ball for a certain need I can ask... there is enough experience out there.
on the other hand time does not stop and advances are made ... but what for?
The thing is... here there are balls rolling you would call "antique"
But those are scoring like the new ones.
So is there really an advance in the technology? Of course... chemistry and physics. Does it really increase scores? now we can debate 'bout that till the end of time... same case as cg..... well I don't say it.
Why am I searching an old ball... cause I have an old ball I know and I want the same core!
And older balls normaly (if not too old
) are cheaper and working as good the new ones.Now take a look at the trend: all the newer stuff gets more and more aggressive... at least I get that feeling... then there are companies bringing backl "retro" balls..
the roundabout is spinning again
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Post by: six pack on August 05, 2008, 05:15:07 PM
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Post by: ccrider on August 05, 2008, 05:51:08 PM
My highest game and series during league play 278/671 with a Kinetic. Still, if I had to pick one ball to bowl with, forsaking all others, it would be a my mean machine, followed closely by an arsenal artillery and then a power machine, although I have many of Track's new and old releases.
A good bowler can make any ball look good most of the time. Generally, there are not bad balls, just balls used on the wrong conditions, or thrown with much operator error. I am living proof of this. If you have confidence in the ball, know the ball, and know your game, old track, new track, or ebonite want matter much if the truth be told.
We buy the new stuff, often time just to ride it around the corner and, because we can. Not because we need it, or because the old stuff does not work any more or is better.
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Post by: 9orbetter on August 05, 2008, 07:17:58 PM
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Post by: RCKYURWLD on August 06, 2008, 04:07:57 PM
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Edited on 8/6/2008 4:09 PM
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on August 06, 2008, 04:15:11 PM
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Yeah, I love those original Track balls. I have 25 NIB Track balls from Texas in storage listed in my profile. However, I can see my selling some of them down the road. I also have Premier 3 Ball rollers and Totes. The Blue and Orange ones are awesome looking and I can sell those later as well.
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Edited on 8/6/2008 4:09 PM
Let me know when you get to selling those bags.
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Post by: ElectricLeftSlider on August 06, 2008, 05:20:19 PM
Post by: six pack on August 06, 2008, 05:37:18 PM
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Post by: Guined on August 06, 2008, 05:51:40 PM
After being at the Ebonite plant, going through the manufacturing process and really seeing how the different companies are being handled. They really are four differnt companies. Even though they are being made in the same facility and on same lines. Ebonite has a very complex facility for producing all four brands.
Each brand has it's own signature for ball reactions "Track Skid/Flip as to Columbia rolls early". The brand manager then decides what each ball will do performance wise within the brand signature as well as color combination. Each company has there own cores and cover stock formualations and they don't cross between brands.
As far as a light oil ball i don't think we will see one for while if we do. Fig is focused on developing high performance balls with the latest in core/cover technology.
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Edited on 8/6/2008 5:52 PM
Post by: six pack on August 06, 2008, 09:02:59 PM
I've thrown Hammer and the rising and boy did they have the same reaction for me,but you miss the point.
my point is why be so brand loyal between two brands that are made from the same company?if you like Ebonite,Hammer,Columbia or Track then chances are you will like all offerings.so if you want a dry lane ball and you like Track then get the Hammer Rayzer.
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Post by: Xcessive_Evil on August 06, 2008, 09:04:35 PM
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Post by: ElectricLeftSlider on August 07, 2008, 11:29:02 AM
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As far as a light oil ball i don't think we will see one for while if we do. Fig is focused on developing high performance balls with the latest in core/cover technology.
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Edited on 8/6/2008 5:52 PM
Well, this actually answered my question. Thank you.