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FastTracker33

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Is Track truly back?
« on: July 10, 2008, 04:04:20 AM »
The subject says it all right here. What i've been noticing is that more and more people are coming back to Track again. Ever since the Ebonite buyout, we've lost a lot of Track exclusive bowlers, but after all the new, great releases Track has come out with, the Legion is definitely back. I for one, am one of the people who thought Track would be junk with Ebonite pouring their equipment from now on. As everyone knows, I purchased a Rising recently. It is such a great ball (if I can actually control it lol), and the ball showed me that Track is just as good as ever. If Track made some more weaker, pearl pieces, for much lighter oil conditions, i'd be all Track right now. In the mean time, i'll be sticking with my Rising, purchasing a Tantrum soon, and buying an Emerald Vibe for lighter conditions. In the long run, i'll be purchasing a Kinetic Pearl to have as a stronger pearl piece.

What do you guys think? Is Track really "BACK"? Is there others that are seeing what I see on the Track forums lately?

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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 01:39:15 PM »
I do not feel we were ever gone. Some folks thought they needed to look elsewhere last season for a few reasons, but after seeing the incredible ball motion that our equipment has I think people are coming back because they notice one thing that has always been a staple for Track: We offer up the best performance equipment a bowling ball company can put out.

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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 01:43:38 PM »
Track is truly back, so is AMF
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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 03:19:56 PM »
I think Track is back and I think they may have as good or better product than they did before, but I haven't been able to convince myself yet to try Track again because there isn't many Track balls thrown in my area for me to judge how well they perform. I've mentioned a couple Track balls to my driller a few times and he just stands there and looks at me and says nothing. Probably because he is more into Ebonite than Track with a bit of Hammer thrown in plus a few Storm balls.
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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 05:30:04 PM »
well I used to match up before the take over,now I moved on since owning that pink/purple nightmare.I have'nt been tempted to try another,I don't care for the Ebo covers and my pro shop gives off the same general impression even though he dose'nt come out and say it.
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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 12:04:42 PM »
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What do you guys think? Is Track really "BACK"?  


We never left, bud.  In fact...we're better than we've ever been.  The Ebonite transaction has blessed us with great reaction shapes.  The greatest thing about it...it's all been done with single density cores...not the "Lego" cores that were produced in TX.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 01:44:44 PM »
Brian, I understand that as a staffer you want and need to promote the "new" Track and I understand a lot of the frustrations of the Ebonite people over the "ball death" and "I hate ebonite covers" stigma. Please promote the "new" Track and don't bash the "old" Track. I loved those "Lego" cores and still do, especially the Robo Rule and Freak. Not dissing or picking on you, but we need to get rid of all this negativity on things we can't control and get back to having fun doing what we should be doing, discussing the new equipment, and how to get the most out of them. The Uprising, Tantrum and Kinetic Pearl all look like great pieces and I'm leaning towards the Tantrum as my first purchase of the "new" Track lineup. Del, Phil, Columbia and Texas are all in the past and it's time to move on. Right, Carl!!

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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 03:52:54 PM »
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Brian, I understand that as a staffer you want and need to promote the "new" Track and I understand a lot of the frustrations of the Ebonite people over the "ball death" and "I hate ebonite covers" stigma. Please promote the "new" Track and don't bash the "old" Track. I loved those "Lego" cores and still do, especially the Robo Rule and Freak. Not dissing or picking on you, but we need to get rid of all this negativity on things we can't control and get back to having fun doing what we should be doing, discussing the new equipment, and how to get the most out of them. The Uprising, Tantrum and Kinetic Pearl all look like great pieces and I'm leaning towards the Tantrum as my first purchase of the "new" Track lineup. Del, Phil, Columbia and Texas are all in the past and it's time to move on. Right, Carl!!


We dont want to move on completly. We still need to look to our past to help give us understandment of things that happen so we dont repeat them. One of the problem with the 'Lego' cores was the extreamly high failure rate with production. This is something that ebonite and many companys have keyed in on. This is why many companys are going solid single peace cores. The other thing is that we want to remember those days because they give us the information as to why Track was the company that we loved. Track was the core inovative companys and the understanding of that is what help the MegaTron core to be made. Some things do need to be left alone however. I wont say what they were but they do, because not everything was a good thing.
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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 05:38:13 PM »
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Brian, I understand that as a staffer you want and need to promote the "new" Track and I understand a lot of the frustrations of the Ebonite people over the "ball death" and "I hate ebonite covers" stigma. Please promote the "new" Track and don't bash the "old" Track. I loved those "Lego" cores and still do, especially the Robo Rule and Freak. Not dissing or picking on you, but we need to get rid of all this negativity on things we can't control and get back to having fun doing what we should be doing, discussing the new equipment, and how to get the most out of them. The Uprising, Tantrum and Kinetic Pearl all look like great pieces and I'm leaning towards the Tantrum as my first purchase of the "new" Track lineup. Del, Phil, Columbia and Texas are all in the past and it's time to move on. Right, Carl!!  


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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2008, 01:49:14 AM »
Sorry, Carl, didn't mean to bring you into this. Just thought that everyone needs to get away from all the negativity from the buyout and focus on the new equipment, etc., guess I was wrong.

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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2008, 10:00:40 AM »
I'm sorry...I missed the old Track bashing in my post.  I merely stated two facts relating to cores.  1) New Track = Single density cores  2) Old Track = Lego or Multi-density cores.

Now...on with my post.
Many of the TX cores were great and worked out very well for me.  I thought the Robo Core was the best core I'd thrown to date when it came out.  The statement was not intended to bash the old Track.  The lego cores were a bit of a quality issue when it came to production.  Poor quality in the production process is a loss of funds.  This can endanger the future of any company.

I personally feel...staff or not...that Track now has a brighter future and a higher quality product.
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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2008, 10:39:43 AM »
Not to start a fire but i would love to hear what you guys thought the major production failure was with the so called "lego" cores.  Sometimes its easier to say that something was bad or a failure instead admitting the truth.  I have always heard Ebonite can only make single density cores.  In todays marketing world i hope this isnt a spin on the truth to make us bowlers think that old products were inferior when in reality its because they just cant be reproduced.  You guys are in the know more than I, im just trying to learn something.

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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2008, 02:19:12 PM »
WOW did this thread get hijacked in a major way.

OK...here is the situation. A company can produce what they want to produce. Ebonite feels that single density is whats best to produce. There are FAR fewer quality control issues out of Hoptown than there were out of San Antonio.

Any one remember the Bonanzas that were created out of the old plant? Those balls were simply balls that did not pass QC. It is just a fact that when you piece things together and they are glued that there will be some production issues. How can someone tell if the flip block or even MB pieces shifted or didn't while the ball was curing?

The old equipment was not bad, I do not believe that is what is being said here. I had very good success with alot of the equipment from back then, as did many other bowlers.

freak,

You are correct.....we cannot promote the new brand by bashing the old brand. If those balls were bad then I do not believe any of us would have continued throwing Track. The way I see it is very simple: staff member or not, I want the best equipment in my hands when I am bowling, so if I did not think that they were great I wouldn't have been throwing those balls.

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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2008, 11:27:51 PM »
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Re: Is Track truly back?
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2008, 09:25:34 AM »
So six has a man crush on me?
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