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williewc

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Lucky Find
« on: April 29, 2007, 12:02:26 PM »
went to the VA state tourny this weekend and the pro shop in one house had 4 Phoenix balls in the shop, so i got one and another guy got one while i was there, but none of the boxes had drill sheets in them


so im wondering if anyone has drill sheets they can scan and email me for the ball or a link for it, any help would be appreciated
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2007, 08:06:46 PM »
Well, as long as you got good specs, you can pretty much any drill you would want on the ball. 2-3 in. 2-3 oz. top, you should be good.

Just go pin above ring, and cg kicked out from palm. Should roll farely well.
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williewc

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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2007, 08:10:35 PM »
here is the specs from the box

15lbs 2oz

2 1/4oz top weight

2-2.5 inch pin
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2007, 08:14:59 PM »
Amazing specs. Just go coventional if you want to. Standard pin over ring, or bridge, and cg slightly kicked out. Weighthole may be needed.
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williewc

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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2007, 08:17:15 PM »
what kind of look on the lanes with that give me?

looking to get it drilled for a strong backend as i have several track pieces that get into an early roll
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2007, 08:29:07 PM »
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Sell them on Ebay and get two NIB balls for what you sell this one for.
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i didnt pay $250 for this ball to sell it lol
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2007, 09:11:29 PM »
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went to the VA state tourny this weekend and the pro shop in one house had 4 Phoenix balls in the shop, so i got one and another guy got one while i was there, but none of the boxes had drill sheets in them


so im wondering if anyone has drill sheets they can scan and email me for the ball or a link for it, any help would be appreciated


I didnt get a drill sheet with my ball either. Since Mr.Skidmore knows how to drill them up we should go with his suggestions?

Shipper
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2007, 09:21:06 PM »
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went to the VA state tourny this weekend and the pro shop in one house had 4 Phoenix balls in the shop, so i got one and another guy got one while i was there, but none of the boxes had drill sheets in them


so im wondering if anyone has drill sheets they can scan and email me for the ball or a link for it, any help would be appreciated


I didnt get a drill sheet with my ball either. Since Mr.Skidmore knows how to drill them up we should go with his suggestions?

Shipper


Standard conventional drill, the pin up will give you length with a more snappy backend. I don't think I have ever drilled up exactly like the drill sheet has.
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2007, 09:23:29 PM »
Track drill sheets - Phoenix

I always say, go to the source.


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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2007, 09:25:04 PM »
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went to the VA state tourny this weekend and the pro shop in one house had 4 Phoenix balls in the shop, so i got one and another guy got one while i was there, but none of the boxes had drill sheets in them


so im wondering if anyone has drill sheets they can scan and email me for the ball or a link for it, any help would be appreciated


I didnt get a drill sheet with my ball either. Since Mr.Skidmore knows how to drill them up we should go with his suggestions?

Shipper


Standard conventional drill, the pin up will give you length with a more snappy backend. I don't think I have ever drilled up exactly like the drill sheet has.
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Kenny i'm glad you taught us all what a "standard conventional" drill is, i'm going to make sure to ask my pro shop operator to drill all my stuff that way becuase if you said it, it must be the best option. I guess instead of using the drillers knowledge or looking on the internet for an actual drill sheet to use in reguards of your Pin to PAP to set up the prefered reaction as you are supposed to.

BTW there is more to a drill sheet than diagrams!
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2007, 09:31:22 PM »
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went to the VA state tourny this weekend and the pro shop in one house had 4 Phoenix balls in the shop, so i got one and another guy got one while i was there, but none of the boxes had drill sheets in them


so im wondering if anyone has drill sheets they can scan and email me for the ball or a link for it, any help would be appreciated


I didnt get a drill sheet with my ball either. Since Mr.Skidmore knows how to drill them up we should go with his suggestions?

Shipper


Standard conventional drill, the pin up will give you length with a more snappy backend. I don't think I have ever drilled up exactly like the drill sheet has.
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Kenny i'm glad you taught us all what a "standard conventional" drill is, i'm going to make sure to ask my pro shop operator to drill all my stuff that way becuase if you said it, it must be the best option. I guess instead of using the drillers knowledge or looking on the internet for an actual drill sheet to use in reguards of your Pin to PAP to set up the prefered reaction as you are supposed to.

BTW there is more to a drill sheet than diagrams!
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Mike, you are seriously getting on my nerves bro. Do I not have an opinion? I just suggested a drill pattern, and you go on about how I am such a pro (sarcasticly). Get off my balls dude.
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2007, 09:32:18 PM »
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Track drill sheets - Phoenix

I always say, go to the source.


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And wow, Kenny was right about the #1 Drilling. WOW. HOT DOG
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2007, 09:33:20 PM »
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Track drill sheets - Phoenix

I always say, go to the source.


That sheet may have been the one that Track would have ended up putting in the box with the Phoenix, but only because the Phoenix is "symmetrical".

That's Track's standard layout sheet...
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2007, 09:36:07 PM »
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Track drill sheets - Phoenix

I always say, go to the source.


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Enjoy,
Bob


And wow, Kenny was right about the #1 Drilling. WOW. HOT DOG
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Kenny that diagram 99% isn't close to what the layout ends up looking like. The Pin to PAP distance is the most important part of the layout on the drill sheet and so is the Pin being above below the fingers. Yes you did suggest Pin above the ring finger or bridge but believe me if he is a low tracker the pin will be way left and if he is a high tracker that pin will not end up there. A general description is not the way to go these days. Most equipment can be tweaked to do almost anything but for it do as the person wants you need to get technical, for him the layout you suggested could be anywhere from a 4" to 6" pin to pap distance, creating many different reaction possibilities.

I'd say you were on the right track but you needed to take it further. And also for more proof of what I said in that wall look at drilling #1 compared to drilling #3, they appear the same but are not very close.
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Re: Lucky Find
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2007, 09:37:56 PM »
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Track drill sheets - Phoenix

I always say, go to the source.


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Enjoy,
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I would say this drilling sheet is a generic sheet for all Track balls. I cant seem to find the word Phoenix anywhere in that sheet? Could it be the Phoenix is like all the other Track balls?

Shipper

Edited on 4/29/2007 9:37 PM
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