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bowl202

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artillery vs AR
« on: March 20, 2006, 02:07:58 AM »
How does the arsenal reactive compare to the artillery?  I just got an AR, but I'm reading rave review on the artillery.  I'm wondering if I should have purchased the artillery.
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Re: artillery vs AR
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2006, 10:32:10 AM »
Bowl,

I have thrown both, and both have PIN BELOW THE RING FINGER layouts so this is an easy comparison...The Artillery with its pearl cover turns alot more on the backend. The Reactive can handle alittle more oil and gets through the heads cleaner and thus has a smooth arc on the backend. These are my observations based on both having PIN BELOW type layouts. Hope this helps buddy! God Bless you and have a great week!

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bowl202

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Re: artillery vs AR
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2006, 10:39:25 AM »
Thanks Michael
Smooth arc makes me much happier. I was hoping it wasnt going to be flippy. I will be putting the pin under the ring with the mb to the right of the thumb.

Hey, keep up the great work, and the Vids are awesome.
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Re: artillery vs AR
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2006, 11:10:31 AM »
No MB on the Arsenal Series.  They are Symetrical.
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bowl202

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Re: artillery vs AR
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2006, 11:15:12 AM »
I would have to question that.  I belive all balls have an mb. They play a bigger part in asymetrical balls, but all balls have an mb. Am I wrong?
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bowl202

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Re: artillery vs AR
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2006, 12:33:30 PM »
FYI...

source:http://www.bowlingfans.com/jeff/ballreactionbasics.html

One note about the mass bias - On asymmetric core bowling balls, the mass bias is marked on the ball.  Each company does this in different ways.  Storm uses an "MC2" while Ebonite uses a little picture of a bomb.  They are not difficult to find when they are marked.  However, balls with symmetric cores do not have a marked mass bias.  These balls still have a mass bias, but it will not be as strong with respect to reaction effect.  

To find the mass bias in non-marked balls, draw a line starting at the pin in the direction of the CG.  Draw the line through the CG.  Once you get to 6 3/4" from the pin, stop.  This is the mass bias point.  It is helpful to weigh the ball on a dodo scale before you do this because the CG is often marked inaccurately on bowling balls.


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Edited on 3/20/2006 1:39 PM
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Re: artillery vs AR
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2006, 01:06:32 PM »
bowl202,

First....the Artillery is more of a complement to the AR. The Artillery's coverstock is a blend of solid and pearl.....generally these types of ball are very popular. The Artillery has a strong backend, but it is not skid/flip....it reads the midlanes very well.

Second....you are correct, all balls have a MB. The method you mentioned to find it is correct as well. The problem is when that method is used the MB is no longer in that positon once the ball is drilled. SO....symmetrical balls have  MB, you just don't know where it is going to end up once it is drilled.

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Re: artillery vs AR
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2006, 01:40:23 PM »
Another thing you need to think about with respect to all balls having an MB is asymmetrical balls need to be drilled different than symmetrical balls.  There is a huge difference with drilling asymmtrical compared to symmetrical.

I had my AR drilled with the pin above the bridge and cg kicked right to 1oz and no x-hole.  The pin was 5.5" from my pap.  I got a early mid lane hook from this ball even with the pin up drilling.  I didn't experience an arc reaction though.  Mine had a flip reaction to it which is what I liked about it.
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