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blackdog

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Asymmetrical vs. Symmetrical
« on: March 16, 2006, 06:45:05 AM »
I've only ever used balls with symmetrical cores, so I'm wondering what the general differences and (dis)advantages between the two core types are. Also, would there big a big difference in how you drilled the two types?
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Re: Asymmetrical vs. Symmetrical
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2006, 02:49:58 PM »
I've used only a few assymetric balls, and, for my money all have been duds...EXCEPT for my latest, a Morich Onslaught.  This ball has demonstrated, for me, the advantage of assymetrics.  It gives me an entirely different look than any symmetrical ball in my bag; that is, it offers me options in playing the lane that I don't have otherwise.  Advantages? I think not so much advantages, as differences.  The disadvantage of assymetrics is, if it is one, you need to be much more on your game as a driller with them.  I don't know if its true of all assymetrics but I think it possible to screw them up much more easily if drilled incorrectly (this may well be why my earlier forays into assymetrics was a flop.)
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Re: Asymmetrical vs. Symmetrical
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2006, 08:51:01 PM »
blackdog,

The drillings on an asymmetrical ball are HUGE in determining reaction. SO they are very important.

With an asymmetrical having the ability as a ball drilling to tweak reaction for a customer is awesome. As a rule asyms generally react harder off of the breakpoint than symmetricals. That can be adjusted via layout though.

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Re: Asymmetrical vs. Symmetrical
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2006, 05:25:57 AM »
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blackdog,

The drillings on an asymmetrical ball are HUGE in determining reaction. SO they are very important.

With an asymmetrical having the ability as a ball drilling to tweak reaction for a customer is awesome. As a rule asyms generally react harder off of the breakpoint than symmetricals. That can be adjusted via layout though.

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Great point Carl ........couldn't agree with you more! The asymms give you more versatility in a drill.  Making one strong, it'll be strongER off the breakpoint than a symm ...BUT...you can make an asymm smooth as anything you have...but the core will give you a better hit because of the dynamics (i.e.; Morich's control drill)
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Re: Asymmetrical vs. Symmetrical
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2006, 05:41:33 AM »
Basic benefit an asymmetrical core gives you is the possibility to fine-tune the ball reaction THROUGH AN EXPERIENCED DRILLER who:
a) knows your game well and
b) knows how to set up such a ball, especially high MB balls.

Ragnar is completly correct about this, and it is vital for proper performance.

You will be able to emphasize ball reaction with the right setup, e. g. creating are really violent break point... but at a pice (as usual). The ball might become more condition specific than a similar symmetrical core ball, at least that's my experience. It is some kind of specialization to your needs - you get a higher performance, but the condition window might become smaller.
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Re: Asymmetrical vs. Symmetrical
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2006, 05:52:32 AM »
Dizzy....good points....and I'm glad you said

the window MIGHT become smaller....it's not true in all cases.

FOR EXAMPLE,....my original Hercules can be used on anything but the extremes! It's a fairly smooth, fairly strong just about do everything ball
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Re: Asymmetrical vs. Symmetrical
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2006, 06:51:02 AM »
I have an XXCel and it is much the same with as ball, kegler78. Was a beast when new, long and strong, but after about 50 games lost much of its hook potential - and I do not know why. I extracted oil and kept the ball clean, I hope a resurfacing and a finish with compound will bring it back to life. Nice ball, but surprisingly let me down pretty quick.

I also use a Shock & Awe and a brand new Sahara (just 2 games to it), and no decline in performance with them yet. Although the S&A proved to be quite condition specific for me or my style - I need long oil, but not too much in the amount. When the condition is right this thing is a beast and it hurts watching it impacting in the pocket. Ouch! But if the oil goes awy, it immediately leaves splits in rows! Strange, but that was predictable.
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Re: Asymmetrical vs. Symmetrical
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2006, 07:09:59 AM »
Me too with the XXcel... it must be the surface or a track built up, I do not see a reason for the ball losing traction SO fast. Other Ebonite balls I have (old, used, TPC Shooetr and Player) are still going strong. No idea why the ball quit...?
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Re: Asymmetrical vs. Symmetrical
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2006, 02:18:09 AM »
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i just got my 1st assym. ball (epic) - was beautiful for 20-30 games (shot 800) - since then this ball has been a nitemare


kegler, this should have no relevance to the fact that it is an asymmetrical or symmetrical ball. It is based on coverstock and oil absorption qualities.  It is almost impossible to have a high friction ball that doesn't absorb oil or dirt.  Any ball that is stronger hooking does so by eating thru whatever is in it's path (including oil and dirt).  If it were not to absorb oil and dirt, then the reaction of the ball would be to slide.

Agreed however that balls should not quit or lose reaction in that short amount of time.  Hope this helps explain some....
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