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Rev_O

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Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« on: January 05, 2007, 07:04:14 PM »
I got 2 words...

Patrick Allen

Whether it be mental or not, it seems that he's matching up well again. NOW, this is NOT a crack on TRACK. Track has many very good pieces that many people match up well with. Track didn't fit PA's game. I'm sure it's happened to all of us. I had trouble in the past with Brunswick equipment. I did not like the way they rolled, and that affected my confidence and mental game. Just because one guy was knocking down the walls (Wes Malott), does not mean that everyone will that throws the same equipment.


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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2007, 07:51:56 AM »
I agree Rev O! Although i love Track equipment, right now i'm not having very much luck with the new asymmetrics(machine,mean machine). Although they are great pieces of equipment,they seem to be just to sensitive to friction for me on my THS.I haven't had a chance to try them on a heavier oil pattern and can't wait to do this!As Rev O states, some pieces of equipment just won't work well for some people! I hope to be able to find a drill for these balls to allow me to use them on my house shot!

Ken

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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2007, 07:56:09 AM »
A little confidence goes a LONG way too!!!
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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2007, 12:50:53 PM »
Well it's exactly opposite for me.. i love Track.. they match up well with me.. and i hate Ebonite.. they don't match up at all with me!
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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2007, 02:37:45 PM »
Well, I guess PA just proved how important matching up with your equipment and confidence are. I didn't see the show (yet), but I'll watch it tomorrow.
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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2007, 10:24:33 AM »
it also shows how different the regional and national tour patterns are. pa did very well over the summer at the south regional tourneys but not much luck on the national tour.

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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2007, 10:37:54 AM »
really? only older equipment? didnt he win the nc open with an equation?

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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2007, 10:43:50 AM »
Great thread.

Unfortunately, I don't merit free balls...

So I'm trying to match up the ones i have with the THS at my local center.  I think I have found that my mid-high RG Aftershock (over 10 years old) with 800 scotchbrite works better than my new fangled Low RG Infinite One; I get good mid-lane read and stronger backend with the Aftershock.  So tonight, I plan to knock the factory finish off the Infinite One a little at a time and see if I can't make this ball more useful for my arsenal.

Don't think I'll make a Patrick Allen size turn-around, but I'll be happy with any improvement!!!

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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2007, 10:48:14 AM »
Interesting thread.

As a lefty...except for particles I have an opinion that Columbia stuff is pretty jumpy for me off the break.  (Is it the coverstock? or their polishes?..both columbia or track)  Until I tried their new Jinx(I love that new coverstock.)  

My opinion of most Ebonite is as most say...weaker coverstocks with very strong cores seems to make a smoother move off spottier or harsher break points!  Could it be their polishes also...which seem slipprier off the break and not as jumpy or tacky??


One guy seems to having no problem with Tracks stuff...Wes Malott seems to be drilling a lot of his stuff...under MIDDLE finger or over MIDDLE finger.
Did Patrick try this?  For WEs Mallott the stuff looks strong AND smooth.
Drilling?  or his roll?

Anyway...my impression for the pretty strong handed Mr. PS is he likes to attack patterns with a slight dominance of speed over his strong revs.
(I'd like to do that too!...but don't).  

Though I bowl with some lefties that do well with track equip they seem to be quite speed dominant and bowling on oil volumes that are maybe slightly heavier(or league oriented patterns).

Again when one watched PA this weekend the impression that the ball was core dominant on the pattern and very smooth off the break was there.

I believe Track equipment is fantastic but both cover heavy and core heavy and maybe a little more suitable for righties on spotty patterns.

Ebonite and Brunsick seem to match up better for lefties(but for different reasons).  Hammer not bad either!

Just impressions of mine...from the left side!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS note the problems Mike Scroggins had last year when using Track versus his nice outings with Brunswick(note...I believe MIke was not releasing as well with his Track stuff either.  why I don't know).
PPS again...is it the polishes?
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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2007, 10:49:26 AM »
largo,fl he was throwing an equation and a machine before hurting his back and withdrawing.

casselberry, fl he was throwing the newer equipment. i wasnt at that tourney or the practice so im not sure. just going by what a friend of mine who bowled some practice with pa.

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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2007, 12:34:08 AM »
i owned a track xception and had no luck with it. i gave it to my dad and he loves it. i have never had any success with an asymetric core which it what almost all the "big" companys are useing i now use legends which only use symetrical cores and i have matched up well with them. so if anybody isnt matching well with something try something it wont hurt none.
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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2007, 05:18:34 AM »
I haven't matched up well with the newer Track stuff at.  I'm not a big fan of asymetrical balls and with most of the newer stuff being that I have kinda stayed any from Track and switched to Columbia.  I still love Track equipment though.  Equation 2 is one that I am really looking at. But we will see.

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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2007, 07:09:11 PM »
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i have never had any success with an asymetric core which it what almost all the "big" companys are useing i now use legends which only use symetrical cores and i have matched up well with them. so if anybody isnt matching well with something try something it wont hurt none.
 

 
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I haven't matched up well with the newer Track stuff  

 
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I've noticed the same thing. It seems like Track's "High Performance" line doesn't work as well for me as some of their older middle tier equipment that I still have.

 


Guys, move over and make room for one more in your boat. I've had the same match-up experience problems with Tracks newer Assymetric Balls (Storm also) made the past 18-20 months or so and because of that, I've had to quit throwing Track (Storm too) and look elsewhere to other companies.
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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2007, 01:47:04 PM »
I have been silent on this type of thread for some time, but I feel the need to chime in.


Let me start of by saying that PA was not the only left hander that didn't perform in the first half of the season. I find it kind of ironic that the first show after the break there were 2 lefties (considering all of the complaining lefties were doing so far this season).

PA found a shot that matched his game, did the ball make a difference? Maybe. Couch was using Ebonite and he didn't win or even make the championship round. Maybe he should try switching to Track? OR was it just that PA finally performed well? Too many questions to answer.

I do know this much, PA killed regionals throughout the entire summer using the Equation. Did the Equation change? I think it is being manufactured the same.

To comment briefly on the equipment. I am going to say something that here that many people are probably afraid or atleast very hesitant to say: The Equation is very similiar in overall reaction to the "one", maybe even the angular one. Ofcourse the Equation is symmetrical and the one is asymmetrical, but they both clear the heads and midlane with ease and have a strong move off of the dry. The only difference I can think of right now is that I have not heard of a bowler complaining that the Equation has "died".

I am done commenting on this subject. I like PA and I wish him luck. I just happen to disagree with him basically saying one company makes great bowling balls and every other company out there doesn't. That is how I took it, not sure about you folks.

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Re: Matching up important???? Just ask PA!!!
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2007, 03:02:37 PM »
PA is really, really enjoying his decision to change back to Ebonite.  He just went 4-0 in the round of 32 and averaged 243 while doing so.  PBA.com says that the Scorpion pattern is normally medium to low scoring, I guess it's not at Lava Lanes.
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