I recently purchased one for 125.00 including shipping and I could not be happier with the results. I was making the move away from skid/flip to more even equipment and this hit the spot perfectly. I have been bowling for 20 plus years and have been able to average in the 190's consistently, but have never been able to shoot that elusive 700. The 4th week with the Phoenix, I shot my first 700. It keeps the pins low and is really clean through the heads. It does not hard as alot of my other balls, it just gets the job done. If you can get one at the right price, it is worth it.